Last edited by Tiresias; July 9th, 2013 at 11:40 PM.
You can't make an omelet without breaking a few Tohsaka. -Fafnir
Naruto is just a shitty little boy taking up space that would be otherwise taken up by competent, otaku-ego-crushing badasses. -Five_X
I anticipate the day when the HA translation comes out and everyone realizes that Caren is the least sexually dominant character in the universe. -Kotonoha
Gun control programs are actually a mage-financed government plot to make mankind start generating hero units again. -McJon
Depends on the culture, but you had riddles and double entendres in the Dark Ages. From monks, even. Sometimes you saw wordplay weird enough that it was probably intended as a pun. A couple scribbled caricatures here and there. Early medieval goliardic students liked bawdy drinking songs.
(Though appropriately enough, the line between magic and satire is sometimes hard to pin down, depending on the culture.)
Peasant humor is a little harder to get at, since they didn't write a lot of it down.
Much of what does survive is earthy and pretty dark. Some of the fabliaux, bits in Chaucer, and some stuff from the Decameron probably reflect these traditions. There is other evidence, and it has the same sort of flavor. Tricksters were popular. Practical jokes were popular. Medievals had high thresholds for pain, and seemed to enjoy seeing it in their neighbors. Serious injuries are often the punchlines.
So I guess Zelretch-as-troll has some backing if you think he took after his original society.
EDIT #1: Of course, Zelretch has been given a long time to add nuances and refine his material. And he's a magus. They're not normal to begin with. Whatever sense of humor he had in the early Middle Ages has probably accumulated a millennium of extra detritus. It's probably very, very weird by now.
EDIT #2: The ORB has a nice, short article on medieval humor as a starting point: http://www.the-orb.net/non_spec/missteps/ch10.html. (And lots of other interesting articles about the Middle Ages, for that matter.)
Last edited by Zalgo Jenkins; July 10th, 2013 at 12:10 AM.
My guess is a mix of the knowledge that another of the greatest old sage type magus of the nasuverse was a confirmated trickster with a penchant to... errr... modify his liege, and the fact that Rin said that he likes to shackle things in the Clock Tower from time to time, and because most of his apprentize end traumatized. Oh, and Ruby. Ruby is a big factor too. If you ask me, someone who can make Ruby can't be anything but a troll, at least to some degree. A magnificent troll that gave us Rin as a magical girl, sure, but a troll nonetheless.
Dunno, reading the novel I don't see so much "Shirou wants Archer's dickings". At least not until the let's play. It is easy, though, to imply double entendres on almost anything, so I still don't see as anything more than the author of the let's play trying to be funny. Keyword being "trying". I found funnier the let's play of "Tsukihime"
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Just one thing on my defense. The h-scenes were promoted by different types of food. I found specially hilarious the Ciel one, with icecream flavours all over the place.
And even then, I don't really see the whole "Shiki and Arihiko are totally gay for each other" more than I saw the "Shirou and Archer are gay for each other". It was fun the first time it was done in either let's play. The rest of the time, though...
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Ice cream? It wouldve been funny if he took curry bread, but this...
Excuse me, I am new to BL but I think this is the place where you suggest new fanfic ideas so I will take a brave step into this world of madness and propose my idea.
What if a True Ancestor and a human had a kid together (I recall there is at least one example that happened according to the wiki) and that kid remained well hidden. A few years later, now that his father is dead, he accidentally blows his cover. This causes almost all of the 27 DAA to pull him into their politics with several wanting to kill him while the others revering him. The power struggle also causes the Church to panic, causing Executors to join the fray.
What's the point?
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
This seems like a very incomplete idea. My answer would be that either the church and the MA kills the poor lad, or he is powerful enough to warrant an answer from the Counter Force and will be killed by inmorta killbots. At least with what you said.
If you explain more your set up, we could help you better.
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