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    ....the biggest thing I've learned from this conversation is that From Fake Dreams is still a thing.

    I guess that kinda power fantasy doesn't fade in its appeal to a certain demographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas View Post
    ....the biggest thing I've learned from this conversation is that From Fake Dreams is still a thing.

    I guess that kinda power fantasy doesn't fade in its appeal to a certain demographic.

    Eh.
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    I've noticed a lot of dislike towards Path of the King and From Fake Dreams while reading this thread, despite the fact they're two of the most popular F/SN fan stories on FF.net. Now, I haven't read From Fake Dreams myself, but I thought Path of the King was fairly good, aside from some irritating grammatical tics.
    Anyway, the point is, I'm curious what you folks do recommend since you reject what's most popular in the fan story community. I know it's a bit off topic, but after 1,240 pages of what irritates you, what is it that's impressed you in Fate/Stay Night fanfiction?

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    You're best off starting a thread that's the opposite of this, since to be perfectly candid, it's the vent/bitching thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lactose View Post
    I've noticed a lot of dislike towards Path of the King and From Fake Dreams while reading this thread, despite the fact they're two of the most popular F/SN fan stories on FF.net. Now, I haven't read From Fake Dreams myself, but I thought Path of the King was fairly good, aside from some irritating grammatical tics.
    Anyway, the point is, I'm curious what you folks do recommend since you reject what's most popular in the fan story community. I know it's a bit off topic, but after 1,240 pages of what irritates you, what is it that's impressed you in Fate/Stay Night fanfiction?
    You're better off looking at the recommendation thread for that. The reviews that are specifically names instead of just +1s generally come with details.

    But off the top of my head, quality of writing is one, though that's already quite vague, and there are various different things that could make prose good: snappy dialogue, clever word choice, distinctive and effective style, etc. Also, avoiding certain annoying trends, like harems or powertripping, is generally a point in its favor, though of course that alone doesn't make something good. That, and clever and unique interpretations of canon and lore details also helps.
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    Sorry to post in the wrong thread. To be honest, I posted here since it seems to be one of the only threads in the fanfic board that's actively being responded to, and it seems like people are more likely to reply on a thread they've already been posting on.
    Plus, this discussion has tangented off several times before, so I'd hoped nobody would mind.

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    You've posted in the Fanfic Recommendation thread. So you know it exists.

    All you need to do is head over to the master post on the first page to get a sense of what's what.
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

    that is what is waiting for you at the end of schadenfreude


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    Sorry again about posting in the wrong thread. In any case, after a day I've returned with something that actually belongs in here: a complaint.
    One thing that absolutely drives me up the wall is when authors decide they're going to be the Joss Whedon of fanfiction, and turn every character into a quip-spouting witticism machine. Of course, there are plenty of people who just have one character (usually the protagonist) make some kind of sardonic comment about every little thing, and they're plenty irritating as well, but what really drives me crazy are people who do this with everyone. It doesn't matter what kind of character you are, or how you spoke in the original work, in this story you're going to have blase uninteresting "humor" crowbarred into every line.
    I know, the original Fate/Stay Night has humor as well, and nothing should be serious all the time. There is, however, a time and a place. We don't all like the Marvel cinematic universe.

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    It's not any better when Jwoss does it, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lactose View Post
    We don't all like the Marvel cinematic universe.
    apparently nasu does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    It's not any better when Jwoss does it, either.
    I could kiss you, Five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    That's how the author himself described what he was doing. I'm not arguing he succeeded by any means, but he was at least aware of the difficulty involved to some extent. It's always threading a needle to introduce major diversions in a canon character's backstory (especially a main one) while keeping them recognizably "themselves", and I'll admit that TF doesn't seem to have pulled it off exceptionally well.

    While his Issei clearly had some of the original's traits intact (like wanting to be the "Harem King"), his sullen smart-aleck demeanour is so different from the Issei we know and love that it just made the whole thing come off as a little depressing. Still, I only read the first few chapters, which were presumably going out of their way to highlight what had changed from canon, so for all I know he ends up acting more like "our" Issei later on.
    The man pretty much lied in his rant in the end.

    He lied about hating such things done to MCs since he did it himself.

    He lied about hating the idea since he does it all the time.

    He just straight up lied and has lied due to crafting many stories that do what his rant screams about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lactose View Post
    I've noticed a lot of dislike towards Path of the King and From Fake Dreams while reading this thread, despite the fact they're two of the most popular F/SN fan stories on FF.net. Now, I haven't read From Fake Dreams myself, but I thought Path of the King was fairly good, aside from some irritating grammatical tics.
    Anyway, the point is, I'm curious what you folks do recommend since you reject what's most popular in the fan story community. I know it's a bit off topic, but after 1,240 pages of what irritates you, what is it that's impressed you in Fate/Stay Night fanfiction?
    POTK, isn't that the one where the author has Shirou & Medea bum around in Misaki for many chapters and no real reason?

    After trying to read that story where he tried to bash Love Hina characters, while crossing it over with Fate, I haven't touched any of his works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    It's not any better when Jwoss does it, either.
    Truth be told, I hate Joss Whedon. Since he's fairly well-liked and I'm new to this forum, though, I was hesitant to come out and bash him along with the people emulating him right away. Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels that way!

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    I recently went on a Fanfic hunt/binge and ended up finding something I've never seen before that really annoyed me. It's a FSN/Hero Aca crossover and the fic starts with a bunch of single lines as their own paragraphs. Nothing really new there, person isekai'd to a new world each new revelation should feel impactful as he realizes his situation. What pissed me off is constantly repeating his name. Every line, "Shirou looked around" "Shirou saw a scorpion man" "Shirou traced a sword". Perosnal pronouns exist, why do keep re-iterating the protagonist and veiwpont character? There's a small fight scene where the writing actually starts to flow and then the minute it stops, back to saying Shirou. EVERY. FUCKING. LINE.

    I didn't even know this was such a sore point for me until five minutes ago.
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    That's just bad writing in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    OC Servants. Let's face it, there's plenty of actual ones to use. Unless that was already sort of covered last page.

    Also, Zero fix-it fics annoy me a little.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    What is an author to do when they want to write about a Servant Rostam or Servant Philoktetes? They haven't been run through the Nasu filter yet, and an author may have very specific reasons for using either one of them.

    Besides, a lot of the FGO Servants are too goofy to be taken seriously anyway. Bradamante completely killed my interest in seeing any more of Fate's Twelve Peers.
    Spoiler:
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

    that is what is waiting for you at the end of schadenfreude


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    OC Servants. Let's face it, there's plenty of actual ones to use. Unless that was already sort of covered last page.

    Also, Zero fix-it fics annoy me a little.
    I don't get why you'd have a problem with OC Servants. What's wrong with wanting to a tell a story with original characters? Obviously they can be handled poorly, but that's true of just about any element in a fanfic.

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    Oh, hey, I read that one!

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