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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    OC Servants. Let's face it, there's plenty of actual ones to use. Unless that was already sort of covered last page.

    Also, Zero fix-it fics annoy me a little.
    If Spoony's Beowulf fic is proof enough that you can turn a Tyler Durden meme into something meaningful, I don't see why the same couldn't be possible with a character created from scratch.

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    TBH, I mostly don't like them because there's always the chance canon will develop a completely different version that makes yours not canon, and besides, I generally lack faith in OCs no matter what, even (actually especially) if I create them.

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    That, and OC Servants generally display how little the author actually understands the mechanics and lore (usually).
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    TBH, I mostly don't like them because there's always the chance canon will develop a completely different version that makes yours not canon, and besides, I generally lack faith in OCs no matter what, even (actually especially) if I create them.

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    That, and OC Servants generally display how little the author actually understands the mechanics and lore (usually).
    I don't see why you'd care if an original Servant ended up different from canon. That's just part of the whole idea of writing fanfic after all, exploring possibilities that canon hasn't filled in yet. The same issue could happen if you wrote a story about, say, a department in the Mage's Association that hasn't been fleshed out in canon, and would you have a problem with that too?

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    OC servants can be cool.

    I still prefer Five's version of servants over the ones canon gave us, even if they're not Fate-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    I don't see why you'd care if an original Servant ended up different from canon. That's just part of the whole idea of writing fanfic after all, exploring possibilities that canon hasn't filled in yet. The same issue could happen if you wrote a story about, say, a department in the Mage's Association that hasn't been fleshed out in canon, and would you have a problem with that too?
    I kind of do, that's the thing.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    OC servants can be cool.

    I still prefer Five's version of servants over the ones canon gave us, even if they're not Fate-like.
    Manhattan Project II was soooo good.


    Also if anyone's down on OC's go read Bloble's Tomb of the Sun God. It will change your mind.

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    DONE!!!!!! 4 years, 1 week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I kind of do, that's the thing.
    Then, no offense but I feel you kind of have a problem with fanfic in general.

    Just read canon if you want something that absolutely can't be contradicted by canon. (Well, assuming it doesn't contradict itself, but that's another issue entirely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    TBH, I mostly don't like them because there's always the chance canon will develop a completely different version that makes yours not canon, and besides, I generally lack faith in OCs no matter what, even (actually especially) if I create them.

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    That, and OC Servants generally display how little the author actually understands the mechanics and lore (usually).
    You do you, but my heart breaks a little every time I hear a new face shows up in FGO because it is almost always worse than some incredibly creative thing I saw a fan do. It's the difference between commodities designed to bring in more fanboys thirsty for big anime tiddies and labors of love spun up free of charge.
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

    that is what is waiting for you at the end of schadenfreude


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    On the flip side, at least Bedivere isn't rocking Nine Lives Sandanzuki Blade Works.

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    Anyways OCs, like most parts of writing, are good when you're a good writer and bad when you're a bad writer.

    Servants being the living plot points that they are make them more suited to OCs than most characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Then, no offense but I feel you kind of have a problem with fanfic in general.

    Just read canon if you want something that absolutely can't be contradicted by canon. (Well, assuming it doesn't contradict itself, but that's another issue entirely).
    This is mostly a TM issue for me, not with other properties as much. In any case, I mostly say this as an avid consumer of fanfic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
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    As time goes on and my compulsion to browse fanfiction archives persists it only drives home what I can only perceive as the stultifying effect of nu-TM on the fandom's willingness to imagine stories in that setting, a phenomenon You described well in their afterword to the first volume of Fate/Mythologie:

    “To the next ten years…”

    What did those words promise? What did those words actually bring?

    Fate/Mythologie came about in an attempt to fill an empty niche. The romance fiction of Kinoko Nasu has exploded almost a decade ago into multiple spin-offs, the most popular of which is Fate/Grand Order. Yet, at least in the English speaking community, fanfiction consists of the same plots with the same ideas and the same characters. That is to say, in the decade so much has happened, yet so little of it has been used. A lot of this is due to the language barrier which is very understandable. But a lot of it has to do with finding satisfaction in the familiar. I hope you found something thrilling into stepping into Tolosa, a world beyond Chaldea, Fuyuki, and medieval Camelot.
    Reproduction of the familiar with only token variations has always been the prevalent impetus of fanfiction, to be sure. Chaldea self-insert rehashes are the Grail Wars with OC Servants and Masters of yesteryear. Camelot fics have only expanded their casts from the days of time-travelling Shirou/Saber. Shipping has diminished, but it's still there. What isn't found in TM fanfiction anymore is innovation beyond this narrow scope - fanfiction that aims to feature, if not expand on, more of the Nasuverse than the select portions that TM shovels in the fandom's face, in genres that no light novel spinoff has trodden. That is, chiefly but not solely, because nu-TM validates the worse aspects of fanfiction writing: the lowest common denominator of a premise, the formulaic storytelling, the refuge in an intrinsic appeal of what is familiar and entrenched in fandom consciousness - a character, a setting, a trope - that is reproduced with a veneer of originality that satisfies both the part of the brain that says "I've enjoyed this before" and the one that asks "what makes this different from what I've read before".

    Now as it happens, fandom reproduces the material it consumes. A scarce few works which hold the promise of stories yet to be told, the blank spaces and the loose ends hinting at an expansive world, invited people to imagine what new things could exist in these lacunas, and even beyond the end of the text. It suffices to say that modern TM experience is more aggregative towards single narratives, where the unknown has value in its relation to what is already known, and loose ends loop back to the main body of the text - planned all along. Holy Grail Wars, Fuyuki, Chaldea, hubs of all that exists and matters when contextualised within the modularising logic of familiar rules, Servants and Grails and Singularities. It's no surprise that the mode of gratification lying at the core of fanfic writing has shifted accordingly towards the uniform and the familiar.

    Which is all to say that, thank god, BL still produces fanfics that write something different, about something different, than what we get on the daily from TM anyway, diminished as the fanfic section is; but there used to be a time when something worth reading occasionally cropped up offsite, which makes the endless wasteland of garbage that is the TM fanfiction scene highly irregular and lamentable. At this point a novelty crossover with some LN garbage is more worth checking out than literally anything under the Fate tag. Write something different, what the hell.

    That's right, you thought this was going to be another FGO rant, but it turned out to be a rant about how I haven't read a good offsite TM fanfic that wasn't porn in like three years instead.
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    worm crossovers

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    that's it

    nothing else to say about that, really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    first volume of Fate/Mythologie:.
    A little birdie with no relation to me told me that this was err pretty good and people should check this out.
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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