Zelretch's Hallowe'en Experiments, Open Range of Ideas thread

[Ergast]

Why should Rin get the broken Jedi, though?

Although, technically, Leia is a pretty strong Jedi herself, once she learns....

Well, I was going to argue about not repeating universes again, but then I realized that the child of Kiritsugu are both from Negima, so why not? And Mara isn't one of the most broken Jedi (although post-RotJ almost every Jedi and Sith are pretty broken)

Well, Sakura shows occasional fear of Rin, but I don't even recall any signs of anger.

I was thinking both of DS (it's her anger, mike, even if amplified by AM) and in Fate when Rin tries to kick her from the Emiya household, or when Shirou introduced Saber. Also HA.

The thing is, though, that without the events of HF, the connection never gets activated, and thus it has zero effect on Sakura. So, I see no reason for her to turn Dark.

To be fair, the posibility is still there. It's just that, unless someone like Shirou perturbs her, she has it under control.

[Mike1984]

I was thinking both of DS (it's her anger, mike, even if amplified by AM) and in Fate when Rin tries to kick her from the Emiya household, or when Shirou introduced Saber. Also HA.

Yes, but everyone is capable of some level of anger. However, Sakura's is very limited and extremely well-controlled. If any character is in danger of turning to the Dark Side through anger, it's Rin. Just push a few Tsundere buttons and wait for the explosion....

To be fair, the posibility is still there. It's just that, unless someone like Shirou perturbs her, she has it under control.

Not outside the Grail War it's not. Without the effects of being a Grail, AM has no way to get a foot-hold, even if something does happen to "perturb" her.

[Prince Charon]

Sakura going as Shirou would be interesting, to say the least. Rin as Kotomine would just break things....

Was kind of the point. I wonder if Ilya would have Berserkles kill Old Man Acht, for keeping her father away.

As for characters being under-powered, the spell doesn't change the quality or quantity of the subjects magic circuits (well, it doesn't reduce it, at least; if Zel could figure out how to make it increase either, he might try that, but I'm not sure what he could do for quality, and quantity generally requires taking them from someone else, or painfully and dangerously turning nerves into temporary ones), so even if Jedi-Padme, for example, is fairly weak in the Force, Sakura would be using her skills with Sakura's prana capacity, not Padme's equivalent.

[Mike1984]

But Padme doesn't have any Jedi skills. Even if she does have some connection to the Force, she certainly does not have any training.

[Prince Charon]

But Padme doesn't have any Jedi skills. Even if she does have some connection to the Force, she certainly does not have any training.

You might want to go back and look at post # 39.

[Fafnir]

You might want to go back and look at post # 39.

Fanfic does not a good argument make.

[Prince Charon]

Fanfic does not a good argument make.

Not referencing specific fanfics, but concepts. Zel finds a parallel that's close enough.

[Mike1984]

You might want to go back and look at post # 39.

Even if she becomes one, I can't imagine she's that well-trained.

Fanfic does not a good argument make.

Actually, for this it does, because the only way this can work is if they get the abilities of the characters as they see them. So, if Sakura happens to read a fanfic where Padme is an awesome Jedi the night before they go and is insipred to dress as her as a result, then Sakura would be an awesome Jedi.

[Prince Charon]

Actually, for this it does, because the only way this can work is if they get the abilities of the characters as they see them. So, if Sakura happens to read a fanfic where Padme is an awesome Jedi the night before they go and is insipred to dress as her as a result, then Sakura would be an awesome Jedi.

... or a doujin, which is more likely. Japan has a bloody huge number of doujin of all varieties, most of which never get translated. If she reads such a doujin, and sees that Shirou is going as Anakin, well, this is long after the BAR.

[Mike1984]

... or a doujin, which is more likely. Japan has a bloody huge number of doujin of all varieties, most of which never get translated. If she reads such a doujin, and sees that Shirou is going as Anakin, well, this is long after the BAR.

Does Japan have Star Wars doujins?

But, yeah, the general principle is the same. Sakura reads something which makes Padme out to be a powerful Jedi (complete with lots of Anakin sex, probably...), Sakura reads it, sees that Shirou is going as Anakin and makes the connection....

[Keyne]

Suddenly.. Saber appears in an Obi-Wan get-up and asks Shirou for some brotastic trick-or-treating!!

[Ergast]

Yes, but everyone is capable of some level of anger. However, Sakura's is very limited and extremely well-controlled. If any character is in danger of turning to the Dark Side through anger, it's Rin. Just push a few Tsundere buttons and wait for the explosion....

That's the thing, a Jedi must have complete control of his anger. In that sense she is like Anakin when he was young. He has his anger under control for most of the time, but when he explodes, Darth Vader happens.

[Mike1984]

That's the thing, a Jedi must have complete control of his anger. In that sense she is like Anakin when he was young. He has his anger under control for most of the time, but when he explodes, Darth Vader happens.

So, then, Rin would become a Sith inside about a second....

[lethum]

Nope. Rin's anger is...shallow. Automatically going to the Dark Side is about having issues, not about being tsun.

[I3uster]

Not being a saintly monk makes you a Sith.

[Mike1984]

Nope. Rin's anger is...shallow. Automatically going to the Dark Side is about having issues, not about being tsun.

Rin does anger easily, though, and not only over superficial things. Sakura does not.

[SeiKeo]

Ah... just being easy to piss off does not make you Sith...

[Mike1984]

Ah... just being easy to piss off does not make you Sith...

No, but nor does Sakura really fit.

[lethum]

No, but nor does Sakura really fit.

How familiar are you with Star Wars? Because I refuse to enter a battle of facts with a (mostly) unarmed foe. Especially since it's not to the death.

It can be so annoying...

[SeiKeo]

Funnily enough, out of the entire Fate cast, the only one that I would say is Sith-esque is Dark Sakura. But, different thing, so, w/e.