Shiki vs the Borg

[esgalia]

This is a little scenario that's been bugging me the past few days.

Tohno Shiki's eyes allow him to see imperfection/death of all physical objects in existance. By cutting the lines the 'thing' is destroyed, whereas stabbing the dots/circles is striking at someone's death. If they exist, there's no resistance to Shiki being able to cut it.

The Borg from Star Trek are a species that assimiliate with other beings to perfect themselves. One particular example is that if something is killing them, they adapt to become immune to it.

Here be headache territory.

Would the Borg be able to adapt a resistance to Shiki's eyes? On the one hand they are still organic living beings, and can be killed. On the other hand Shiki would be relying on his ability to kill them via mystic eyes, so they should be able to adapt a resistance to that ability, which would result in Shiki needed to find alternatives to killing future Borg.

In short, could the Borg adapt to eliminate the 'lines' and 'dots' that Shiki sees?

[Mcjon01]

No.

[lantzblades]

In short, could the Borg adapt to eliminate the 'lines' and 'dots' that Shiki sees?

nope it runs beyond their perceptual state. MEoDP is like the traveller, the worm hole aliens or Q, far beyond their scope. in theory the borg mind could advance to a state where they could counter it however the likelihood of reaching such with Shiki hunting them is slim to none given that given 29th century borg aren't capable of defending against anything on the MEoDP's level.

[Lianru]

Yeah, no, probably not.
(this could probably go in the questions thread? dunno)

[Five_X]

Yeah, Borg getting immune to dotstab is like Beserkcules doing the same. It just doesn't work.

[Dartz]

I don't think so. Arc has that same ability. She has gained resistance (after experiencing them) to every kind of mystery in the world except magic from the Ancient Shinto in Japan and some treasures at South America. She didn't develop any resistance to the MEoDP even after directly experiencing them. So I don't think it would work. Since death (in other words, the lifespan of existence) is something that is always there, the MEoDP just allows him to see it. If they become immune, then they would be gaining immunity to death itself, not the eyes, since the eyes is just a means to see what's already there.

[Lianru]

Yeah, Borg getting immune to dotstab is like Beserkcules doing the same. It just doesn't work.

Oh dear.
SHIKI CAN KILL SERVANTS DISCUSS
he totally can lololol
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[I3uster]

You know that this only works with non-kinetic weaponry? If you go at them with a sword or blunt force they can't adapt.

[Cruor]

Oh dear.
SHIKI CAN KILL SERVANTS DISCUSS
he totally can lololol
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Can Servants be killed by modern weapons? Y/N

[Lianru]

Yes, but it would be hard.

[I3uster]

Can Servants be killed by modern weapons? Y/N

Yes, if you hold the modern weapon so that it points at the Servants Master.

[esgalia]

So in short, if it's anything short of immortal, it can't override death, and thus can't hide from Shiki's eyes. Does that sum it up?

You know that this only works with non-kinetic weaponry? If you go at them with a sword or blunt force they can't adapt.

Ah, forgot about that. Sucks to be Borg in this case.

[Dartz]

Can Servants be killed by modern weapons? Y/N

According to recent info from CM3, they apparently can. arai didn't agree with it, though. And I forgot how the argument between him, rats and food ended.

So in short, if it's anything short of immortal, it can't override death, and thus can't hide from Shiki's eyes. Does that sum it up?

Yeah, pretty much. But the Borg are aliens, right? They might not even have a Gaian concept of death.

[Mcjon01]

But they're Star Trek rubber forehead aliens, I'd be hesitant to lump them together with stuff like Types.

[Cruor]

According to recent info from CM3, they apparently can. arai didn't agree with it, though. And I forgot how the argument between him, rats and food ended.

I said it jokingly >_>; never expected so many replies. As if they can then MEoDP does infact work on Servants.

Anyway, the argument mostly ended in arai's view being more accepted as he brought in Rin quotes on modern weapons and Japanese fandom.

[Tobias]

I just try not to think about that argument.

[Lianru]

I just say to myself that Shiki is awesome, therefore he can kill Servants.
:3

[eddyak]

Shiki can sex Servants. That's enough.

[Lianru]

Troo dat.

[pureauthor]

MEoDP may not work on Servant/nonGaians, but Tohno Gland works on anything.