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    [FF] Beast of the Moon (Grail Works, Ltd. - T-M/FFX)

    Prelude - The Man With Kaleidoscope Eyes (Grail Works Ltd.: An Introduction)







    Cosmos. A Greek word meaning “order,” or “world,” in modern parlance it describes the universe when viewed as a whole. The entirety of Creation, for those who believe it to be so. To one like me, the word has a somewhat broader application, for I deal in far more than a single universe. My eyes, through the power of my magic, are capable of perceiving all that is - and all that could be, which is, in essence, anything and everything, all at once. It’s a perspective few are truly suited for, because the concept is so much more than only the tiniest fraction of sentient beings is capable of comprehending . . . Oh, dear - I just realised I’ve forgotten to introduce myself. Well, in some times and places, I already have, in others I’ll do so shortly, and in others still, I never bother - either because it’s unnecessary, or I don’t care to . . . Again, apologies - one does tend to ramble at my age.

    I am most commonly known as Zelretch, with a host of other names, titles, and occasionally, natures - but here and now, I am a wizard whose magic specialises in the perception and utilisation of parallel worlds - worlds where things differ ever so slightly, or sometimes vastly, from the one you know. And so few truly know their own world, much less these others . . . But there are hints, even among the truly blind. Imagination is the key, you see. What you see in your mind, in your heart, likely exists, somewhere in the realms of “what if.” You see those worlds all the time, in stories, and legends - but even then, only the tiniest fraction. Only the strongest possibility, whereas the lesser ones are too weak to leave an impact on your spirit. But they exist, however unlikely - sometimes to vanish into the ether, absorbed or negated by another possibility, but they are there.

    This, for example, is a boy that many of you are likely familiar with: Emiya Shirou. Rather unassuming, all things considered, with an impressive talent for a relatively unremarkable form of magecraft - but in a certain cluster of possibilities, he participates in rather important events, with a diverse and often surprising collection of characters. I use the term advisedly, as many of you know him as fictional - your reality is so far distant from his own that it is the only impression he is capable of leaving - but that’s unimportant, right now. What is important is that in the main, he is a youth whose heart’s desire is to save everyone from danger, strife, and pain, someone who competes in the Holy Grail War, whose victor is to be granted a single wish, possessing the power of a true miracle . . .

    And that once - just once - he succeeded.

    In a single reality, among all the many facets of reality that I can perceive, the Grail was what it was supposed to be, and Emiya Shirou, along with his friends, was granted the power to save everyone. The result is an agency on the edge of the cosmos: a collection of troubleshooters who call themselves Grail Works, Limited. They are not perfect, nor are they always successful in their attempts, but they at least have the chance to try - and if you are in need, true need . . .

    Then whoever or whatever you are, wherever or whenever you come from, you will find a Door opened for you.










    Writer's Notes: Welcome once again, ladies and gentlemen, to the world of Grail Works, Limited!

    As originally conceived, Grail Works is a shared setting designed to be used as a plot device by any writer on the Beast's Lair - similar to "The Challenge." And, oddly enough, Grail Works is also based on an idea I stole . . . Er, that I got from the same author, alternatively known as Kestral, Metroanime, and one or two other aliases. And like him, I got some help with developing the idea - he had Skysaber, I have Inugami.

    The basic idea here was to give everybody a plot device for crossovers, AUs (alternate versions of themselves looking for help, for example), and maybe an overarching series they could contribute to. As a result, a lot of this is played lightheartedly and for fun - so if the character descriptions don't quite match what you think they ought to, don't worry: they're not really meant to. As it has a couple of author characters already, more are permitted - but preferably only one per person, and ask permission, if you want to use them - please and thank you.


    Now, as the history of things stand in this setting, it's fairly simple. In an alternate timeline (call it the "Ilya Route"), Shirou actually got his wish, and formed this troubleshooting agency. They operate out of a subdimension contained within Avalon, overlapping their own world through the Emiya home. So they can leave the bubble to go shopping, etc., but are also self-contained, when necessary. Avalon does require periodic charges of prana to keep functioning, but they have enough mages and magical creatures to go around that it's not a huge problem. The Grail Works crew (from the Fate side) are Shirou, Saber, Rin, Sakura, Rider, and Ilya. They've recently added the Tohno household (Shiki, Akiha, the maids and Ren) to their ranks, along with the Tohno manor property. Through the magic of dimensional overlap, both manors are contained within Avalon, but do not appear to have moved within the physical world - so walking across the lawn could take them to either house, or outside to Fuyuki or Misaki, depending on their desire.

    (*Note: In the original version, Shiki was romantically paired with Arcueid - this was later changed to Sacchin, to reflect their shared setting as being "the universe of the underdogs." At present, since Inugami seems to be stuck, I'll leave the actual choice up to anyone who wants to write about that group.)


    Typically, a client shows up (from somewhere), and one or more of them attempts to help. They prefer using their own abiltiies first (and frequently scavenge other realities for useful items to help them do so, so things like lightsabers, or enchanted armour, or other odds and ends litter their equipment room). However, if something requires a really massive change, they have access to the Holy Grail for a wish - but they need to charge it up first. Therefore, they spend a lot of time hunting for (usually magical) objects or sources that can be drained into the Grail in lieu of the souls of six Epic Spirits. The adventure of these hunts could be stories in themselves, for those who'd like to try.



    CURRENT PERSONNEL STATUS:



    Shirou is pretty much himself, at least at the "end of the Fate route" level of competence, maybe more. He's usually the one off dealing with clients' problems. In the original setting, he's romantically uninvolved with any of the girls, much to their frustration - but a later version had this classed as an "Ilya ending."

    Saber is a dragon, much to her dismay. A well-meaning client tried to pay the Works back by reincarnating Saber to break her contract as a Servant, and somehow managed the hundred-to-one odds of reincarnating her as this (though something in her karma likely played a factor, as well). She now regards the client as a half-rate, dim-witted excuse for a hedge wizard, much to said individual's dismay. While perfectly capable of appearing human, she's more than a little upset with him at the loss of her humanity, and the draconic urges she now has to deal with. For example, she's started accumulating a treasure hoard - although in her case, her preferred "treasure" seems to be plushies.

    Rin is on board with this whole thing as a way to refine her craft - and God knows, Shirou would be hopeless without her.

    Sakura is as she would be at the end of Heaven's Feel's Good Ending, sustaining a contract with Rider to drain off the ridiculous amounts of prana she's got left over. She doesn't do much adventuring herself - she's more about seeing that everyone's taken care of when they come back.

    Rider is Sakura's Servant - period. If Sakura wants her to do it, she'll do it. Right now, Sakura's behind this whole idea, so she's all for it, and will help where she can. Besides, they come across some of the neatest vehicles and creatures! She's secretly hoping to eventually get her hands on one of those speeder bikes from the last Star Wars movie - they look fast.

    Ilya is presently functioning as the "master computer" of the complex. She opens Doors to other dimensions (for clients or operatives), monitors them, and protects operatives from being overwritten by the local reality laws - otherwise, to use an example, Arcueid might find herself interpreted as a traditional vampire, rather than a True Ancestor. Within the complex, Ilya is a physical being - but outside of Avalon's reach, she could only appear in a wraithlike form. Her "body" (the Grail) is housed within the most secure portion of the Works' Inventory Room (their equipment storage space, and Saber's current lair). She is constantly seeking a way to detach herself from the Grail, and inhabit a body again, so she looks at methods of soul transference. Reincarnation doesn't really appeal, after seeing what happened to Saber . . .

    Her biggest worry is that one of the other girls will seduce Shirou before she manages to accomplish it. Frequently, if a mission involves dealing with pretty girls, she'll send someone else, and work to keep him out of it.

    The Tsukihime cast was discussed above. Story ideas Inugami and I batted around when Arc was the main girl was reincarnating her as something outlandish, like a demon character from the Disgaea series, but with Sacchin, we thought about making her Rin or Sakura's apprentice, and Garm her familiar. Nothing major set for the rest, other than Ren - Garm is her "big brother" (see below).

    Garm is Inugami's author-created character, a dog familiar that seeks to protect Ren, with power over shadows and flame. He's distrustful of magi in general, owing to bad experiences, but willing to ask for help in finding his sister, whom he lost track of several centuries ago. PM Inugami for details and permission if you want to use him.

    Kurai is me - an SI turned into his favourite 3.5 D&D character, a half-drow lycanthope (who used to be a human) druid/fighter multiclass. He's an epic-level character, but enough of a generalist that he doesn't hit the really earth-shattering powers that an epic character ought to have - but within the d20 system, he's a monster, with a number of rule-bending (or breaking) abilities. He could take on small armies (dozens to low hundreds) by himself, and win - and is competent at any number of skills and roles within a party. Nowhere near a Servant's level in power, but reasonably competent, and he figures he owes the crew, so he's sticking around until he considers them even.
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    Prologue - Faythless Dreams

    DISCLAIMER: Lunar Legend Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night, and all related characters and concepts are the creation and property of Kinoko Nasu and Type-Moon, along with anyone who's happened to license them, like Geneon or Funimation. Dungeons and Dragons is the creation of Gary Gygax et al, and the Forgotten Realms are the creation of Ed Greenwood. Both are owned by Wizards of the Coast. Final Fantasy X, X-2, and all related characters and concepts are the creation and property of Square-Enix, along with their employees Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshitaka Amano, and all the others who usually have a hand in developing their games.

    This is a not-for-profit, just-for-fun project.








    Dream Zanarkand, Spira











    For a thousand years, they had dreamed. Dreamed of a city, and of lives, that had died long ago. For a thousand years, they had allowed themselves to be called, and perpetuated the spiral of death that was, in the end, the only real legacy of their home. And as they came to doubt, they also came to realise that they had no choice, any longer - the will which bound them to that spiral was too strong, and would not simply let them go. The dream had become a nightmare for both the dreamers and the waking world, and they were powerless to stop it.

    Not that they hadn’t tried, nonetheless. Ten years ago, during the last iteration, they had pooled their strength, sent a champion of their own making, in the hopes that he might succeed, with the aid of the waking, where they had failed . . . But it had been no better. And now their champion stood as merely the latest incarnation of their enemy, the perpetuator of their imprisonment. Hope, it seemed, was no more available to them than to those outside their dreamed city, who summoned them again and again in efforts to bring about a doomed peace. Doomed, because it never - and never would - last. Sin would always be reborn, always demand the continuation of the Pilgrimages, the Summoning of the Final Aeon - and all the sacrifices that they always entailed.

    Some of their number thought to try the same act again, in hopes that a second living dream might somehow succeed where the first had failed - but he recalled a saying that seemed appropriate to the situation: that the definition of “insanity” was doing the same thing over again, and expecting a different result. No, it was no different from the Spirans’ belief that, in time, Sin’s attacks would cease, if they atoned sufficiently. It was no true solution, only a vain hope . . . But he could see no better one before him, and reluctantly considered that he might need to acquiesce, however reluctantly, to this plan, as well -

    He paused, mentally and physically, before an unfamiliar sight (which was itself a seeming impossibility, in a world that had not changed in a millennium): a wooden door, set into a wall, faint illumination shining through the cracks. Driven as much by bewilderment as curiosity, he opened the door, and stepped through . . .








    Home Base, Avalon








    He found himself, upon entering, materialised into his other form. Despite its size, that form fit surprisingly well into a Spartan but well-appointed parlour, such as might be seen in some of the more impressive manor homes of their bygone era. Seated behind a large mahogany desk, far too large for her build, was a pale girl, who regarded him with knowing crimson eyes, which were nearly hidden beneath snow-white bangs. While she looked as alive as any living creature, he had the sense that she was similar to himself in her nature.

    Nevertheless, the girl greeted him cheerfully, a pleasant smile on her face as she said in a silvery voice. “Welcome to Grail Works, Limited, Bahamut-san - how can we be of service?”







    Once upon a time, he’d been a man - at least, physically and legally. A useless waste of space was closer to the truth, in his own opinion, but by most definitions, he’d been a man. And then he’d walked into a store that sold curses and mystical items - the latter usually another source of the former. It was a plot he’d run across in several online fan fiction stories, so believing it all to be a joke, he’d done what one of the protagonists had done: bought a pad of paper, and a pencil, and copied out his Dungeons and Dragons character, as he would be when fused with himself.

    When he’d found himself turned into a druid and a werewolf, it had stopped being funny. And when he discovered that the proprietor of said store had apparently read the same stories, it really stopped being funny, because the wizard, or demon, or whatever it was behind the counter had come up with a way to spite him in the years between now and their publication. Kieran Holt had been a third-edition character - meaning that he was two editions behind, as far as the game’s current rules were concerned, and the proprietor had tried to force him to account for that. And in the fourth edition rules, a character like he’d become just flat out couldn’t exist. He’d staggered from the store, his body and mind warping itself to try and conform to rules that refused to allow them, and stumbled through another door in the process . . .

    Or, more accurately, a Door.

    The Grail Works crew had managed to stabilise him - forced the store’s curse to work for them in redesigning his existence, expending itself in the process - and the now half-drow lycanthrope figured that he owed them for that. He’d tried to help out, mainly by acting as a research resource - a lot of their problems came from places he’d seen or read about it, and they hadn’t - but so far his attempts to help in a more tangible sense . . . Well, they hadn’t worked out, to put it mildly. And Saber had not been happy about the results, which was an even bigger understatement - a criminal one, in fact. She’d been moody and snappish ever sense, particularly around or about him, though he could hardly blame her for it. And to be fair, it wasn’t precisely her fault, either . . .

    He shook his head. It wasn’t supposed to be like this, damn it. He’d cast the spell, and had Ilya aim it along the timestream, intending to revive Saber the instant before her full contract with the world took effect. Only the Grail could’ve enacted the spell with such precision, and he couldn’t fault Ilya - she’d done so perfectly. He’d cast the spell, knowing the odds were good Saber would end up a non-human (but likely still humanoid, like an elf or halfling), but assuming that Rin or Ilya could easily restore her to human form.

    Instead, she was a dragon. A bronze dragon, to be precise, so she could at least take human form - but she seemed to have picked up a paragon template, as well, which meant that she had a high enough magic resistance to require the Grail’s full power to affect her. And naturally, she was pissed about it. It made him sick - he wouldn’t have hurt Saber for the world - but then, why should he be surprised? Even in the game, he’d never been able to make that spell work properly, and nothing else had gone as planned where this new incarnation had been concerned . . .

    And that was really just the start of Saber’s problems. Both variants of the reincarnation spell were designed to return a soul in the form of a young adult, which made her effectively a teenager. That she was a young adult dragon just made it worse - their elemental natures gave their emotions a similar force to the elements themselves. For the first time in maybe sixteen centuries, Saber was an honest-to-Powers teenager again, dealing with teenaged hormones again - and while her discipline hadn’t really faltered, she also didn’t have the distraction of running a realm to help her suppress them, this time. Her anger and frustration, which had been terrifying when she was merely (mostly) human, were now as potent and inevitable as a hurricane, and potentially just as - if not even more - destructive.

    And, he suspected privately, the emphasis was on frustration regarding her ill-temper. He might not have his copy of the Draconomicon handy any longer, but it was trivial, so he remembered it: young adult dragons almost immediately sought to mate once they hit that stage in their development - and there weren’t any other dragons around for her to even consider. When you added in the fact that the only unattached males were himself or that dog familiar, Ren’s “brother” Garm . . . Really, taking the situation from that perspective, it was something of a minor miracle that the conjoined mansions that made up this complex were still standing -

    “Kurai,” Ilya called, the sound of his new alias derailing his train of thought as the Holy Grail’s living spirit appeared - insomuch as the term wasn’t an oxymoron. “We’ve got a job you can do.”

    “Why me?” the druid countered. “I know that the others are all out, but Arturia’s been getting restless - ”

    “Do you think she knows anything about a place called ‘Spira?’” Ilya countered.

    “Spira? I can brief . . . Never mind,” the druid sighed. Given her general opinion of him, he was liable to end up thrown out of her immediate vicinity - literally. And since she could actually kill him . . .

    “We’ll likely be sending her along, as well,” Ilya admitted, “but this sounds like your kind of problem. Our client this time is . . . “

    As she explained, Kurai found himself nodding. Work to overthrow a tyrannical theocracy of the undead, and break a thousand-year cycle of suffering and stagnation? His druidic nature, to say nothing of Kieran Holt’s experiences with the Mage Lord Council, definitely made it his kind of problem. And his abilities probably would work fairly well in a Final Fantasy setting . . . Besides, it was Yuna’s world that was asking for help. How could he refuse?

    He flashed on the last person he’d tried to help in a “fanboy moment,” and winced. The perils of a Wisdom score in the fifties - you really did know better.

    Hopefully, I’ll do less damage to Yuna - and Rikku, and the others - than I did to Arturia . . .

    Hopefully.
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    So, assuming that I'd be interested in contributing (mostly for Tsukihime stuff), how would I go about arranging this stuff with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pureauthor View Post
    So, assuming that I'd be interested in contributing (mostly for Tsukihime stuff), how would I go about arranging this stuff with you?
    You've got the cast of characters - do what you'd like. Just note in the thread title that it's a Grail Works story. If you want a particular continuity, this story will primarily involve Kurai, and likely Saber. The others are "busy" (maybe doing what you're writing right now), so they're open. Or you can use everybody, and say it takes place earlier. Ilya can keep track of everybody at once, so she can bridge every story easily enough.

    *shrug* Whatever you do, I'll try to incorporate into this, or future works - but as it's just starting, feel free to play and set some of the rules, yourself, in the process.

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    Hm. Okay. I'll see if I can whip up something later.

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    Ah, FFX. I remember you.

    I couldn't stand you after reading http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3258280/1/Soldier_of_Spira_Repost

    That story was everything FFX should have been. Auron as protag, epic plot and scope, Auron is sharp and it shows, Rikku is a teenager and better for it and....God I miss that story. I miss it so much. I'd trade so much to see it finished. But what's there is worthwhile.

    I look forward to seeing where you go with this Kieran, and hope you manage to make something better than canon with Spira. Your track record is pretty good so far. The fact that you have no voice actors already puts you ahead of the game.

    Also, Dragon Saber is terribly cute and amusing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok
    I refuse to believe that any eroge scene with Taiga would not make allusions to her Christmas Cake status, and this being Nasu, include references to making a cake. Stirring the batter, whisking the eggs, swirl the mixture around....
    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantBeam
    ....

    IS THIS REVENGE, HYMN? REVENGE FOR ALL THE ABUSE I PUT YOU THROUGH?
    That's all, folks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy, Vlad_the_II (3 times), Radiantbeam (5 times), YeOfLittleFaith, Ars Poetica, The Curious Fan, Raven2785
    Damn you Hymn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach, KAIZA (2 times), Old_Iron, YeOfLittleFaith (2 times), Trevelyan, ianmuff, ZidanReign, Sage of Eyes, legoguydude, KooriRenchuu
    Bless you Hymn.

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    I just had a thought of Shirou being in the Marval(sp?) or DC verses for his mission.
    Words to live by: Fate is a B****, Destiny is a whore, while Karma is just doing her job.

    Violence solves all problems. If its not working then you are not using enough.
    Even though I am male after taking a 'Which Fate/stay night Character are you?' quiz I am...

    Tohsaka Rin You are Rin. Cool and collected, you think logically about most situations. You strive for self-perfection, and rely on others only for your benefit. You may be cold toward most people, but you can be friendly when you try. Indeed, it could be said you enjoy helping others that you care for. Whatever the case, you tend to think logically and don't let emotions cloud your judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burningclaw2 View Post
    I just had a thought of Shirou being in the Marval(sp?) or DC verses for his mission.
    That's possibly the worst place to send Shirou to that's not a hentai or harem setting. Too many ridiculously hot women around that would probably go head over heels for a genuinely nice guy that kicks ass.

    Also, BAR.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok
    I refuse to believe that any eroge scene with Taiga would not make allusions to her Christmas Cake status, and this being Nasu, include references to making a cake. Stirring the batter, whisking the eggs, swirl the mixture around....
    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantBeam
    ....

    IS THIS REVENGE, HYMN? REVENGE FOR ALL THE ABUSE I PUT YOU THROUGH?
    That's all, folks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy, Vlad_the_II (3 times), Radiantbeam (5 times), YeOfLittleFaith, Ars Poetica, The Curious Fan, Raven2785
    Damn you Hymn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach, KAIZA (2 times), Old_Iron, YeOfLittleFaith (2 times), Trevelyan, ianmuff, ZidanReign, Sage of Eyes, legoguydude, KooriRenchuu
    Bless you Hymn.

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    True but think of the villians faces when Shirou pulls something like Caladholg II out.
    Words to live by: Fate is a B****, Destiny is a whore, while Karma is just doing her job.

    Violence solves all problems. If its not working then you are not using enough.
    Even though I am male after taking a 'Which Fate/stay night Character are you?' quiz I am...

    Tohsaka Rin You are Rin. Cool and collected, you think logically about most situations. You strive for self-perfection, and rely on others only for your benefit. You may be cold toward most people, but you can be friendly when you try. Indeed, it could be said you enjoy helping others that you care for. Whatever the case, you tend to think logically and don't let emotions cloud your judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burningclaw2 View Post
    True but think of the villians faces when Shirou pulls something like Caladholg II out.
    ....It's the Marvel universe. If the villains are put off by Caladholg then they are clearly not on the A-list.

    EDIT: Now, Shirou's face as he tries to swordspam Magneto? That would be worth seeing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok
    I refuse to believe that any eroge scene with Taiga would not make allusions to her Christmas Cake status, and this being Nasu, include references to making a cake. Stirring the batter, whisking the eggs, swirl the mixture around....
    Quote Originally Posted by RadiantBeam
    ....

    IS THIS REVENGE, HYMN? REVENGE FOR ALL THE ABUSE I PUT YOU THROUGH?
    That's all, folks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy, Vlad_the_II (3 times), Radiantbeam (5 times), YeOfLittleFaith, Ars Poetica, The Curious Fan, Raven2785
    Damn you Hymn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach, KAIZA (2 times), Old_Iron, YeOfLittleFaith (2 times), Trevelyan, ianmuff, ZidanReign, Sage of Eyes, legoguydude, KooriRenchuu
    Bless you Hymn.

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    Broken Phantasm version? Also lets throw in Caliburn as well.
    Words to live by: Fate is a B****, Destiny is a whore, while Karma is just doing her job.

    Violence solves all problems. If its not working then you are not using enough.
    Even though I am male after taking a 'Which Fate/stay night Character are you?' quiz I am...

    Tohsaka Rin You are Rin. Cool and collected, you think logically about most situations. You strive for self-perfection, and rely on others only for your benefit. You may be cold toward most people, but you can be friendly when you try. Indeed, it could be said you enjoy helping others that you care for. Whatever the case, you tend to think logically and don't let emotions cloud your judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burningclaw2 View Post
    Broken Phantasm version? Also lets throw in Caliburn as well.
    Marvelverse. Where they have entire categories of cosmic level characters. Home to the Summers sons? Wolverine? Dr. Doom? Dr. Reed? Dr. Strange? The Silver Surfer? The Hulk? Juggernaut? Storm? Rogue? The Phoenix herself, Jean Grey, and her spawn who kick death in the face more often than Shirou ever has? These are the heroes/antiheroes/villains the villains are up against. Shirou's not that big a fish.

    But that's neither here nor there. I'm not gonna clutter up this topic anymore. PM me or move to a new topic. I'll reply when I can.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok
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    IS THIS REVENGE, HYMN? REVENGE FOR ALL THE ABUSE I PUT YOU THROUGH?
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    Shirou has basically gotten an entire armory of legendary swords possibly from working in Grail Works Limited and from Gilgameshes(sp?) GoB some weapons could take down some members of the marvelverse. Though I would like to see what happens if you introduce Torashinai to Magneto's head repeatedly. I'm not saying Shirou can take everyone but some weapons of his can take on and cancel certain powers. Like Gae Buidhe on Wolverine and The Hulk. So long as the lance is in one piece they can't regen. I am not sure if Gae Daerg(sp?) will work on Juggernaut, but I believe Caliburn can overpower at least one of the Summer sons. Dr. Doom would most likely leave Shirou alone until he leaves since if Shirou is not staying Doom will not be likely trying to get ride of him. Shirou may not be the strongest but his supply of weapons does make him highly versatile and adaptable. Thus I am done.
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    Oh, great. It's the one Final Fantasy (excluding XI) that I haven't played yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok View Post
    Ah, FFX. I remember you.

    I couldn't stand you after reading http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3258280/1/Soldier_of_Spira_Repost

    That story was everything FFX should have been. Auron as protag, epic plot and scope, Auron is sharp and it shows, Rikku is a teenager and better for it and....God I miss that story. I miss it so much. I'd trade so much to see it finished. But what's there is worthwhile.
    I know stories like that, so I sympathise.


    I look forward to seeing where you go with this Kieran, and hope you manage to make something better than canon with Spira. Your track record is pretty good so far. The fact that you have no voice actors already puts you ahead of the game.
    To be fair, I could listen to Yuna forever, and Rikku can sound damned sexy in her darker tones of voice . . . But I digress.

    I'm probably going to canon-bash, at least a little. It didn't actually occur to me until I wrote the sentence how ridiculous the plan to use Tidus to defeat Sin actually was. It basically boiled down to, "It didn't work the first time - so let's just do it again"? It's just like the Spirans and their "spiral of death" - repeat the same actions, and hope for a different result. Granted, for the Spirans it was rigged, but the fayth ought to have known better.

    That said, as a druid, Kurai's not too much fonder of machina (or cities) than a Yevonite - but he can accept that creating such things are part of human nature, and as long as care to respect the natural world is taken, he has no problem with them. A village like Besaid, for example, or the Ronso village in Mt. Gagazet . . . He can also be quite direct - his solution to Seymour's blackmailing Yuna would be to sneak into the wedding and cut his head off in front of the cameras, so the Guado could dissolve into pyrefiles - surely a Summoner marrying an unsent would be seen as a problem?

    The real trick will be to avoid being labelled a fiend, himself - he can pass as human with one of his druid abilties, but he'd have to change shape to access the bulk of his werewolf powers.

    And out of curiosity, does anybody have a preference for how he arrives? My two ideas are either: show up exactly as Tidus did, and meet Rikku first, or appear to Yuna while she's praying in the temple for Valefor, and pass himself off as an aeon.



    Also, Dragon Saber is terribly cute and amusing.
    She is - and also highly irritated, particularly with a certain werewolf (I suspect this mission is Ilya's attempt to get them to reconcile and treat one another civilly).

    I'm also wondering where, exactly, to put her - she could substitute for Bahamut, or Ixion, with her nature and powers - or do Tidus' role . . . Or replace Yojimbo as an "aeon" that doesn't need to be bribed.




    Quote Originally Posted by Hymn of Ragnarok View Post
    ....It's the Marvel universe. If the villains are put off by Caladholg then they are clearly not on the A-list.

    EDIT: Now, Shirou's face as he tries to swordspam Magneto? That would be worth seeing.
    True . . .




    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    Oh, great. It's the one Final Fantasy (excluding XI) that I haven't played yet.

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    Sorry - it's the one I know best.

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    If I were ever going to do a Final Fantasy crossover, I'd do FFV or FFIX.

    FFIX because it's my favourite FF, FFV because Gilgamesh. Always Gilgamesh. (And ExDeath. He's cool too.)

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    To be fair to the fayth, they probably didn't have any other options, their resources were kind of limited.

    if I were to do one of these, I'd probably have someone (maybe Ryougi, if you can use characters outside Fate) help Squall & co from FFVIII.

    @pureauthor:

    Maybe you could have Grails Works, Ltd recruit FFV Gilgamesh as a new employee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pureauthor View Post
    If I were ever going to do a Final Fantasy crossover, I'd do FFV or FFIX.
    I have IX, I just haven't finished it (though I am enjoying it) - and my other favourite is IV, but X is fairly detailed in terms of world-building, and like I said - I know it best. I also figured a druid would work well in Spira.




    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixAct View Post
    To be fair to the fayth, they probably didn't have any other options, their resources were kind of limited.
    True.


    if I were to do one of these, I'd probably have someone (maybe Ryougi, if you can use characters outside Fate) help Squall & co from FFVIII.
    Going by the "least amount of effort to accomplish the job" philosophy, they might contract her through Touko, and then just open the Door for her. Who would the client be, I wonder . . .?


    @pureauthor:

    Maybe you could have Grails Works, Ltd recruit FFV Gilgamesh as a new employee?
    We're going to need a scorecard to take care of all the branches, soon, methinks.

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    Hm. Where should Kurai show up eh? An pondersome question. It would make somewhat sense for him to pop up in the ocean and meet Rikku similar to how X starts. On the other hand, if you have him basically show up in Valefor's place, I have to wonder if he wouldn't than be under the same limitations as the other Aeons/fayth and such since he's basically shoving Valefor out of the way.

    Your obviously biased as to perhaps some Yuna/Kurai foreshadow shipping, but for my preference I'd say have him appear like in the "prologue" with Rikku. You can throw her an awesome curve by speaking Al Bhed. (Not that hard of a language to figure out/speak. If that piques your interest, here's a site where you can input sentences and such, and it'll auto-translate for you. http://www.pixelscapes.com/twoflower/albhed.html)
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