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[Kieran]

I never implied it wasn't.

Fair enough - my apologies.

Yay problems!

Well, that's half the fun - and this week looks like it'll be a doozy.

. . . Long-term, however, I foresee Laurel causing problems. Amusing, really, to see that the Lances appear to have switched perspectives on the "vigilante."

This may be just me, but I think I saw a glance or two of interest for Oliver in her eyes. I wonder if she likes challenges and people who can stand up to her.

Maybe - but then again, maybe she just likes the challenge of crushing them.

P.S.: for a moment there, when they questioned him about who would fund him, I totally wanted him to say "Mr. Wayne, from Gotham City"

Understandable - and maybe even doable, with the whole "Batman Incorporated" thing. But I was just as pleased with who did show up.

[TheInfamousMan]

Professor Pyg is handled horribly by anyone not Grant Morrison. Who agrees?

[Sherrinford]

^ he's the guy with a pig mask that lobotomizes people, right? I don't know much about him (in fact, I don't know anything), but he looks like someone taken straight out of an horror movie.

Maybe - but then again, maybe she just likes the challenge of crushing them.

Yeah.

Understandable - and maybe even doable, with the whole "Batman Incorporated" thing. But I was just as pleased with who did show up.

Hey, Batman Inc.! That's something else they could adapt into a TV series.

Maybe. It would definitely need some "sharpening" as an idea. Because some members are just ridiculous.

And yeah, how could I forget about the new vigilante?! I can totally relate to Roy. Who the heck was she? Literally, my DC-fu fails me this time. Maybe Black Canary? Now that was one way to end the episode!

[TheInfamousMan]

^ he's the guy with a pig mask that lobotomizes people, right? I don't know much about him (in fact, I don't know anything), but he looks like someone taken straight out of an horror movie.

Lobotomizes, drugs, castrate, and turn people into zombie-like slaves. Oh, and he's supposed to be bat-shit crazy and spout nonsense all the time, including dancing to 'sexy disco hot' every time he gets really frustrated or angry (and the action itself makes Pyg redefine wrong)

Unfortunately, anybody who tries to use him makes him speak... Clearly and sanely. It seems only Grant Morrison can write his creation the way it should be.

And yes, Pyg definitely belongs in a horror movie

[Kieran]

Professor Pyg is handled horribly by anyone not Grant Morrison. Who agrees?

I think I've only read the character as handled by him - but seeing as I've read a grand total of two Morrison stories (one of them non-DC) that weren't utterly nonsensical crap, I can't see how anyone else could do worse.

Hey, Batman Inc.! That's something else they could adapt into a TV series.

Maybe. It would definitely need some "sharpening" as an idea. Because some members are just ridiculous.

On the other hand, we could get Blackbat back - AKA Cassandra Cain/Batgirl III. I miss her.

And yeah, how could I forget about the new vigilante?! I can totally relate to Roy. Who the heck was she? Literally, my DC-fu fails me this time. Maybe Black Canary? Now that was one way to end the episode!

The general look says Black Canary - but considering that Canary's civilian ID is "Dinah Lance," explaining it's going to be tricky. I've read some speculation that it's actually Sarah - but while that would be neat, again, it would require a lot of explaining.

[TheInfamousMan]

I think I've only read the character as handled by him - but seeing as I've read a grand total of two Morrison stories (one of them non-DC) that weren't utterly nonsensical crap, I can't see how anyone else could do worse.

i dunno. I kinda liked his screwed up villains and the re-introduction of the Batmen of Nations/Club of Heroes.

[Sherrinford]

Lobotomizes, drugs, castrate, and turn people into zombie-like slaves.

Yeah, that.

Oh, and he's supposed to be bat-shit crazy

That would have to be expected, considering what said above.

On the other hand, we could get Blackbat back - AKA Cassandra Cain/Batgirl III. I miss her.

I miss her too (kind of). She was one of the characters I got most interested in not too long ago.

The general look says Black Canary - but considering that Canary's civilian ID is "Dinah Lance," explaining it's going to be tricky.

Yeah, that's why I'm not sure.

I've read some speculation that it's actually Sarah - but while that would be neat, again, it would require a lot of explaining.

A lot indeed. But hey, we've never seen her body, and maaaybe, if Oliver survived, she could have survived too?

[Kieran]

i dunno. I kinda liked his screwed up villains and the re-introduction of the Batmen of Nations/Club of Heroes.

I'm not saying he doesn't get interesting ideas to play with - but about halfway into them (if that long), they stop making any kind of sense. The only exceptions are The New 52's Action Comics (which I assume is because the editors were breathing down his neck on it), and Steed & Mrs. Peel, because The Avengers had an overtone of nonsense to it, anyway.

But All-Star Superman was like reading the bad old days of the Silver Age come back to life, and anything Batman that he touches . . . *shudder*

[TheInfamousMan]

I'm not saying he doesn't get interesting ideas to play with - but about halfway into them (if that long), they stop making any kind of sense. The only exceptions are The New 52's Action Comics (which I assume is because the editors were breathing down his neck on it), and Steed & Mrs. Peel, because The Avengers had an overtone of nonsense to it, anyway.

But All-Star Superman was like reading the bad old days of the Silver Age come back to life, and anything Batman that he touches . . . *shudder*

Well, Grant is a self-admitted fanboy of old-school comics. So he tries to inject their general 'feel' and ideas into new ones in order to dissect and study why they worked and how they can work in the new modern comics. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

And All-Star was supposed to be a direct continuation of the Silver Age Comics. And while the Club of Heroes re-intro arc was good, the general Black Hand arc was a bit of a mess. The Zur-En-Arrh split personality was a pretty interesting idea, but Grant kind of handled it sloppily. Though I loved how most of those wacky Silver-Age adventures were just the result of drugs and a dream experiment. Something Bruce would totally try to do in order test his limits.

I would also like to point out that Action Comic's first few issues are actually a direct callback to Superman's roots as an anti-corruption hero who scared the snot out of corrupt businessmen. And like his old days, while he was bulletproof, fast, could leap tall buildings, and had superstrength he did have his limits.

[Laith]

This is cool.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/1...ort-exclusive/

[TheInfamousMan]

That would have to be expected, considering what said above.

You have no idea. Here's what he does for 'sexy disco hot'.



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This is cool.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/1...ort-exclusive/

Holy crap you're right. It is pretty cool.

[Sherrinford]

This is cool.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/1...ort-exclusive/

Really cool!

[TheInfamousMan]

They must now do something like this for Batman. It would be awesome to see his history summed up in one short and well-animated video.

[Laith]

Wait for his 75 anniversary

[Sherrinford]

They must now do something like this for Batman. It would be awesome to see his history summed up in one short and well-animated video.

Oh yeah!

[Kieran]

They must now do something like this for Batman. It would be awesome to see his history summed up in one short and well-animated video.

Wait for his 75 anniversary

In other words, next year.

[TheInfamousMan]

In other words, next year.

Sweet.

Also, watched the Superheroes special on PBS. Have to admit, even Adam West can sound badass when reading lines from TDKR.

[Kieran]

Sweet.

Also, watched the Superheroes special on PBS. Have to admit, even Adam West can sound badass when reading lines from TDKR.

Yeah, that one was fun to see - and while I suspect that old age is catching up to Julie Newmar (sadly), it affirms my opinion of Lou Ferrigno's awesomeness.

The funny thing is, I found "The Greatest American Hero: The Complete Series" not long afterwards, for cheap. So, of course I snapped it up.

[Kieran]

Just finished tonight's "Arrow." I have two immediate reactions:

1) Stupid cliffhangers!

2) From her attitude all episode, I want to beat Laurel's face in, the sanctimonious little . . . *grrr*

[Sherrinford]

Excellent episode as always!

1) "My secret identity is a black driver". Lol. Oh, and come on Oliver, I bet that was on purpose, just to make Felicity fumble on the double meaning.

2) Is Wilson... jealous?

3) That was a good compromise Roy, but I'm not sure Thea would think the same way when she finds out.

4) This episode's villains also should get a mention.

5) Yeah, Dinah is taking this far too emotionally, to the point of being slightly unreasonable, but it's not like you can't understand her: some people sometimes react that way, and considering the vigilante's past experiences, of course she doesn't trust him.

6) AAAAAAAAHHHH SHIT that cliffhanger!!

Will our hero manage to escape Dinah's trap and redeem his reputation? Tune in next week, same Arrow-time, same Arrow-channel!