[FSN/???] Final Stage - Gilgamesh's Greatest Opponent (One-shot)

[Guy]

This was before Shirou deployed UBW. Gil was winning the fight, and basically brought out Ea for shits and giggles. Gil wasn't being pressured at all at that moment. He later pulled out Ea in UBW when Shirou had the upper hand and got chopped off before even getting a chance to fire Enuma Elish.

So he went for it twice vs Shirou. Once was "lol, check this out, Faker." The second was "Oh shit oh shit oh shit, I need Ea!"

And yes, Shirou surviving it didn't make any sense. Let's call it plot armor and call it a day.

Oh yeah, my bad, remembered wrong, I just remembered the second time.

And plot armor it is.

^^ Mind reading in the Nasuverse is VERY common, I believe it is not too fallacious too believe he has a NP against mind reading, the guy has an shield against 2nd magic for example. I agree that Onslaught would beat Gil, just not that bad as you think.

[whosaidthat]

This is Marvel, only DC can beat them, "because ours goes up to eleven".

Right, Superman?

[lantzblades]

Mind reading

telepathic powers are not JUST mind reading and further it's more common in the marvel u and you need three people to stop just X when he's being nice about it.

Onslaught can easily replicate cerebro's effect on X's powers and add that to the fact that he doesn't have hesitation anymore regarding personal space (mentally speaking) and you have a war machine who needs serious fire power to take down, and on that note i should add that realistically Ea, the gate and his armour are useless by virtue of magnus' powers.

and gil ain't the hulk so i do think he would be beat as badly as i've stated.

[Guy]

telepathic powers are not JUST mind reading and further it's more common in the marvel u and you need three people to stop just X when he's being nice about it.

Onslaught can easily replicate cerebro's effect on X's powers and add that to the fact that he doesn't have hesitation anymore regarding personal space (mentally speaking) and you have a war machine who needs serious fire power to take down, and on that note i should add that realistically Ea, the gate and his armour are useless by virtue of magnus' powers.

Why is Ea useless? There is no evidence that it is made of metal, it's made from a material so alien that UBW can not comprehend, and anyway has proto Gae Bolg, you are telling me that a weapon that can make destiny his bitch it's not effective? I fail to see how.

But anyway, it seems I won't convince you otherwise and vice-versa, so let's agree to disagree?

[whosaidthat]

Why is Ea useless? There is no evidence that it is made of metal, it's made from a material so alien that UBW can not comprehend, and anyway has proto Gae Bolg, you are telling me that a weapon that can make destiny his bitch it's not effective? I fail to see how.

But anyway, it seems I won't convince you otherwise and vice-versa, so let's agree to disagree?

I always believed Gungnir didn't had it's auto-hit function (since legends tend to disagree with each other) and that was simply an effect of Odin being that good at throwing his spear. The appeal of that spear is in being the mystic code of the man that alledgedly mastered all forms of magic, which totally makes him at least Bi, meaning it is a kick ass amplifier of magical power. Once in UBW, it's possible for Shirou to replicate a ton of spells with it, if he get's more creative on his reality marble usage.

[Lycodrake]

I always believed Gungnir didn't had it's auto-hit function (since legends tend to disagree with each other) and that was simply an effect of Odin being that good at throwing his spear. The appeal of that spear is in being the mystic code of the man that alledgedly mastered all forms of magic, which totally makes him at least Bi, meaning it is a kick ass amplifier of magical power. Once in UBW, it's possible for Shirou to replicate a ton of spells with it, if he get's more creative on his reality marble usage.

Odin traded one of his eyes so that he could have much better aim, IIRC.

[whosaidthat]

Odin traded one of his eyes so that he could have much better aim, IIRC.

Prophecy comes with better aim too? Should have stayed with deep vision then, at least he won't have doomed everyone irreparably by scrying the future every single week.

[Lycodrake]

Prophecy comes with better aim too? Should have stayed with deep vision then, at least he won't have doomed everyone irreparably by scrying the future every single week.

The Norns handle the scrying. Skuld specifically, though.

[KAIZA]

Okay! I'm back, ready to answer all inquiries again!
*reads last 2 pages*
Okay, let me try this:

on the fic, er, nice idea i guess and by the bounds on the fighting game gil could beat him. but canonically onslaught would beat gil like a rag doll so bad not even enkidu would recognize him.

in short nice story but impossible with just gil.

as for the spiderman issue, well joey joe joe Q ain't marvel editor in chief no more.

and to be correct onslaught was an event villain. event villains are supposed to be nigh unstoppable. it makes people team up.

like fighting big G or the whole DC superman prime or blackest night stuff. it reminds us that all these guys do in fact live in the same unis.

Okay, I understand what you mean. I may not read many comic books, but I do know that Onslaught is very powerful in the comics. I think I mentioned that it
took a lot to beat him, and if I remember correctly, he still survived. However, since I based the idea on the game, well, it does become a bit more plausible. After all,
this is the series where Roll (a housekeeping robot) can beat Onslaught, and Phoenix Wright (a lawyer) can beat Galactus.

Anyhow, I've also read all the discussion about whether Gil can or cannot beat him in canon...Let's try to avoid that, before it gets out of hand, 'kay? ^^;
Different universes, laws and rules...I just want to avoid flames. Let's just say this is a "Marvel vs. TYPE-MOON" game, and continue...
*phew*

The only problem I had with it was tat every time Gil blocked a physical hit should have damage Onslaught severely.

I...think I understand. I guess you mean that Onslaught should have been hurt every time Gil blocked his attacks.
Um...well...
*fidget fidget*
Fighting game mechanics!
Ahaha...ahaha..ha...
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Okay, I don't know...;_;

Well, thanks for all the feedback guys!
And thanks for reading the fic! I thought it would fade into obscurity quickly...
Well, I guess my confidence went up a little.
Who knows. I may be able to write more in the future.
Although I still prefer to help out others with their ideas. I'm pointing at you, Lyco.
Well then, see ya.

[Guy]

Keep working man!

I look forward to see more of your work!

[Larekko12]

I...think I understand. I guess you mean that Onslaught should have been hurt every time Gil blocked his attacks.
Um...well...
*fidget fidget*
Fighting game mechanics!
Ahaha...ahaha..ha...
...
....
.....
Okay, I don't know...;_;

Well, thanks for all the feedback guys!
And thanks for reading the fic! I thought it would fade into obscurity quickly...
Well, I guess my confidence went up a little.
Who knows. I may be able to write more in the future.
Although I still prefer to help out others with their ideas. I'm pointing at you, Lyco.
Well then, see ya.

It could be a special trait of Gil. Like how Chun li double jumps or The head of Shield is tougher than most.

[KAIZA]

It could be a special trait of Gil. Like how Chun li double jumps or The head of Shield is tougher than most.

Oh. Well, then it could work. Although it may be a little bit OP. Keep blocking through most of the match, and your opponent will wear
himself down. Then finish him with a GoB, even through massive chip damage if blocked.
Then again, the MvC series does have a lot of OP characters :P (Neutralize, Neutralize, Neutralize, Hyper Sentinel Force!)

[Guy]

A MvC game is balanced because everyone is broken.

[KAIZA]

A MvC game is balanced because everyone is broken.

Hahaha!
I lol'd, but true.

[lantzblades]

Why is Ea useless?

the guard in made of metal, therefore Onslaught can yank it away from him, not to mention the guy is covered in metal so he could be made to drop ea.

anyway has proto Gae Bolg, you are telling me that a weapon that can make destiny his bitch it's not effective? I fail to see how.

the target is three people therefore the homing effect is canceled by not actually having a target.

took a lot to beat him, and if I remember correctly, he still survived.

they separated the minds in question that made him up so it counts.

Different universes, laws and rules...I just want to avoid flames.

hey like i said, in the context of the fighter it was good. it's just not realistic in the manner of canon

[KAIZA]

hey like i said, in the context of the fighter it was good. it's just not realistic in the manner of canon

Heh, no worries, and thanks for the feedback!

[Guy]

the guard in made of metal, therefore Onslaught can yank it away from him, not to mention the guy is covered in metal so he could be made to drop ea.

Like I said it's not proven. The material could be easily older than the concept of "metal".

the target is three people therefore the homing effect is canceled by not actually having a target.

I don't think this is true...

But I won't argue any further.

[Larekko12]

IT magic ancient metal that may not be magnetizeable. It can also have ancient divine enchantments. Also the block trait can back fire hold down oo long and it press to you skin causing you to take damage and then get take a defense penalty.

[KAIZA]

Also the block trait can back fire hold down oo long and it press to you skin causing you to take damage and then get take a defense penalty.

Fair enough.
Although some players may still find a way to break the game even with the penalty. :P
All in all, it makes for good fun.

[Guy]

IT magic ancient metal that may not be magnetizeable. It can also have ancient divine enchantments. Also the block trait can back fire hold down oo long and it press to you skin causing you to take damage and then get take a defense penalty.

What I meant is that Shirou could not understand the weapon, it hurted to look at it (if I remember correctly), if it was a "metal" he could at least use a nerfed copy like with excalipoor, but he cannot even look at it.

EDIT: Now I'll stop arguing about it.