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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Growing up in the 2000s, I remember all my mostly white friends being super confused about the whole thing, at least in elementary school.

    Also, totally understand it was written this way on purpose, and it's far from the weirdest conversation the group will have. You'll see.
    Yeah, I think the intended conclusion is just that the JoJo crew are a bunch of quirky weirdos who like talking about weird things in their free time.

    I mean, this is a gang consisting of a 20-something who acts like a kid and can't do basic arithmetic, a guy who's pathologically afraid of the number 4 and an ex-cop who thinks pissing in someone's tea is a hilarious prank (Bucciarati and Giorno are the most "normal" members of the team, at least at face value, and they mostly stayed out of that conversation). Misunderstanding vegetarianism would hardly be the oddest thing they've ever done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Yeah, I think the intended conclusion is just that the JoJo crew are a bunch of quirky weirdos who like talking about weird things in their free time.

    I mean, this is a gang consisting of a 20-something who acts like a kid and can't do basic arithmetic, a guy who's pathologically afraid of the number 4 and an ex-cop who thinks pissing in someone's tea is a hilarious prank (Bucciarati and Giorno are the most "normal" members of the team, at least at face value, and they mostly stayed out of that conversation). Misunderstanding vegetarianism would hardly be the oddest thing they've ever done.
    According to the wiki, Narancia was 18 at oldest during VA, which makes sense, since Bruno met him when he was at high school age.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I dunno why rin gets so much flack for actually being an equal partner in the routei mean, donít get me wrong, seibah foí life and all, but seriouslysaber ends up doing the lionís share of the work so itís not really an equal partnership, and Sakura was damsel in distress, UBW is the only one where you have two people who use their strengths and shared feelings to compliment and overcome each otherís Weaknesses to achieve their goals, and for some reason that makes rin less of a heroine?dah fuck is that logic?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    According to the wiki, Narancia was 18 at oldest during VA, which makes sense, since Bruno met him when he was at high school age.
    Somehow I got it into my head that Narencia was actually the oldest member of the group or something, when actually he's just older than Fugo, who's only 16 (my god, lad certainly does not look it though). Thanks for the correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Somehow I got it into my head that Narencia was actually the oldest member of the group or something, when actually he's just older than Fugo, who's only 16 (my god, lad certainly does not look it though). Thanks for the correction.
    And Giorno is 15, for gods' sake. Abbacchio is the oldest by about 6 months.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I dunno why rin gets so much flack for actually being an equal partner in the routei mean, donít get me wrong, seibah foí life and all, but seriouslysaber ends up doing the lionís share of the work so itís not really an equal partnership, and Sakura was damsel in distress, UBW is the only one where you have two people who use their strengths and shared feelings to compliment and overcome each otherís Weaknesses to achieve their goals, and for some reason that makes rin less of a heroine?dah fuck is that logic?!

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    DPro's JoJo shines in the directing, digital effects and sound design. I don't think that the former two have been quite as strong in part 5 as in part 4 (though there has been a lot of great lighting and CG, it hasn't complemented shots anywhere near as well as 4's effects did) but sound design has in general been top notch. It just kinda sucks when an episode is noticeably a downgrade. I don't even care that much about the poorly drawn faces, those can be fixed in the bluray, I care about bland scene comp and structure. This episode had some potentially great stuff with a little polish like Narancia's freakouts (which was a cool justifiable off-model thing that was really kinetic and fun to watch, just needed a little polish with a couple extra frames) and a bunch of great cuts that just need a redraw (and some that are flat out great, like a shot with Narancia around the 18 and a half minute mark) but also a lot of shit like Trish's badly drawn monologue with uninspired framing and Buccellati's lolzoomout that really shouldn't have made it in. All this said, I'm very appreciative of DP putting in the work of delivering an anime for a manga long believed to be wholly unadaptable. Reading the manga made me appreciate it all the more, and I hope it carries on all the way through part 8 or wherever Araki leaves us off.

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    Also this episode gave us the Abbacchio wine meme and delivered on Squalo and Tiziano's eroticism, I can't hold the fact that so much of it looks bad entirely against it
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    tfw no Fate/One
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Oh, Mike. Sweet, poor, naive Mike. Wants his waifu to be loved, doesn't realize that he's the reason more and more people have grown to dislike her. It's so pure and tragic I could cry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Yeah your right, the game with uterus eating penis worms that drive 9 year old little girls crazy from sexual extasy, contains a scene where a Loli raped her adopted brother, featured on screen attempted sexual assault and has an instance wherein another servant (female) tried or succeeded in raping ayako specifically would never include something as hard core as a couple of bisexuals having at some sexual experimentation using a bet as a conveniant pretext for such
    that would just be to over the top
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toa of Gallifrey View Post
    Also this episode gave us the Abbacchio wine meme and delivered on Squalo and Tiziano's eroticism, I can't hold the fact that so much of it looks bad entirely against it
    I've heard jokes that all the budget this week went to making Squalo and Tiziano look as sexy as possible. Given how their scenes were some of the best-looking in the episode, I don't think that's so far off.

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    The scene where they have uncensored 60 FPS anal sex inside the restaurant in view of everyone while moaning about how they're going to kill Narancia and describing it in graphic detail was a little too long and I feel like those resources could've gone into other parts of the episode, but I hear Araki specifially asked for it, so I can't fault him for wanting to break free of Shonen Jump's limitations.

    In all seriousness, that was exactly what I wanted out of their interactions (without going into unrealistic territory like Utena-style comically serious poses that change between every shot). I cared more about seeing that than I do about how the fight goes, so I'm happy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    tfw no Fate/One
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Oh, Mike. Sweet, poor, naive Mike. Wants his waifu to be loved, doesn't realize that he's the reason more and more people have grown to dislike her. It's so pure and tragic I could cry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Yeah your right, the game with uterus eating penis worms that drive 9 year old little girls crazy from sexual extasy, contains a scene where a Loli raped her adopted brother, featured on screen attempted sexual assault and has an instance wherein another servant (female) tried or succeeded in raping ayako specifically would never include something as hard core as a couple of bisexuals having at some sexual experimentation using a bet as a conveniant pretext for such
    that would just be to over the top
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toa of Gallifrey View Post
    The scene where they have uncensored 60 FPS anal sex inside the restaurant in view of everyone while moaning about how they're going to kill Narancia and describing it in graphic detail was a little too long and I feel like those resources could've gone into other parts of the episode, but I hear Araki specifially asked for it, so I can't fault him for wanting to break free of Shonen Jump's limitations.

    In all seriousness, that was exactly what I wanted out of their interactions (without going into unrealistic territory like Utena-style comically serious poses that change between every shot). I cared more about seeing that than I do about how the fight goes, so I'm happy.
    It has been ages since I read Part 5, so forgive me for my ignorance, but did that really happen, or am I stupid to even semi-believe it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I dunno why rin gets so much flack for actually being an equal partner in the routei mean, donít get me wrong, seibah foí life and all, but seriouslysaber ends up doing the lionís share of the work so itís not really an equal partnership, and Sakura was damsel in distress, UBW is the only one where you have two people who use their strengths and shared feelings to compliment and overcome each otherís Weaknesses to achieve their goals, and for some reason that makes rin less of a heroine?dah fuck is that logic?!

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    > thinking Narancia is older than everyone

    how

    nothing he does suggests hes mature or old at all lol
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    He is older than Fugo, and being a manchild does exist. So Royd can be kind of forgiven.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I dunno why rin gets so much flack for actually being an equal partner in the routei mean, donít get me wrong, seibah foí life and all, but seriouslysaber ends up doing the lionís share of the work so itís not really an equal partnership, and Sakura was damsel in distress, UBW is the only one where you have two people who use their strengths and shared feelings to compliment and overcome each otherís Weaknesses to achieve their goals, and for some reason that makes rin less of a heroine?dah fuck is that logic?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    It has been ages since I read Part 5, so forgive me for my ignorance, but did that really happen, or am I stupid to even semi-believe it?
    I'm just referencing the Incredibles 2 meme where people say that they weren't a huge fan of Mr. Incredibles' explosive tirade against Frozone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    tfw no Fate/One
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Oh, Mike. Sweet, poor, naive Mike. Wants his waifu to be loved, doesn't realize that he's the reason more and more people have grown to dislike her. It's so pure and tragic I could cry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    Yeah your right, the game with uterus eating penis worms that drive 9 year old little girls crazy from sexual extasy, contains a scene where a Loli raped her adopted brother, featured on screen attempted sexual assault and has an instance wherein another servant (female) tried or succeeded in raping ayako specifically would never include something as hard core as a couple of bisexuals having at some sexual experimentation using a bet as a conveniant pretext for such
    that would just be to over the top
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    Anyone still reading Part 8? If so, just read the newest chapter today, and
    Spoiler:
    I totally suspect Yasuho's ex as being some sort of rock human, even if he isn't allied with the Rokakaka research team. Also, Tsurugi just got creepier today, and it turns out he didn't quite murder someone after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I dunno why rin gets so much flack for actually being an equal partner in the routei mean, donít get me wrong, seibah foí life and all, but seriouslysaber ends up doing the lionís share of the work so itís not really an equal partnership, and Sakura was damsel in distress, UBW is the only one where you have two people who use their strengths and shared feelings to compliment and overcome each otherís Weaknesses to achieve their goals, and for some reason that makes rin less of a heroine?dah fuck is that logic?!

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    Just watched ep 23 this afternoon. I think the fight this week should dispel any lingering notions that Narancia is "stupid" or "an idiot". Kid might be uneducated and impulsive, but in a pinch he can show an amazing amount of cleverness and tactical thinking. The way he used Talking Heads' own ability against Squalo & Tiziano to trick the duo into letting their guard down was downright brilliant.

    Speaking of Talking Heads though, for some reason I expected more screentime to be dedicated to Narancia figuring out how to overcome it and tell the rest of the crew what was going on. I even swore I saw manga panels (which I quickly looked away from to avoid spoiling myself) of Narancia trying various ways to work around it, like writing a message on his arm or saying obviously false things like "the sky is red" or "water is dry" to try and let his allies know he's being forced to lie without telling them directly. Instead it doesn't matter since Narancia runs off on his own to defeat S&T, with the rest of the gang never realizing what was going on until the situation was already resolved.

    Am I just getting confused, or was there a whole chunk of this fight from the manga that got cut out to save time?

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