It's not getting any better involving Trish's relevance, aside from one kinda funny scene later on involving Mista.
It's not getting any better involving Trish's relevance, aside from one kinda funny scene later on involving Mista.
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Italian juggalo doing a fine job defending Jojo’s title as the greatest unintentional comedy
that fucking part with him crawling around in the heli had me in tears
"unintentional"
Yeah, Araki knows what he's doing.
Also, I guess a 7-page Muda actually isn't that long when put on the silver screen. Still was epic, though I would have preferred if at the beginning, the beginning of Il Vento d'Auro was played.
Also, I noticed a Ken remix when Giorno and Mista were scaling the building to get to the helicopter.
I’ve always felt Araki’s weirdness was more natural and genuine, rather than a deliberate attempt at being weird. Especialliy since in all his interviews he comes off as a total airhead.
What a glorious beatdown. This was awesome, goddamn
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DINO GETTER,FUCK YESS
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Araki's weirdness is organic, but he doesn't pretend that he's telling a super serious story. He's said that his primary goal is always to entertain.
He can tell some seriously great stories though. SBR is definitely proof.
Actually, more than the wackiness and bizarro hijinks of JJBA, the thing that really hooks me, especially to parts I-VI, is that those parts tell a beautiful, multi-generational story about the value of heroism and fighting the good fight in the face of overwhelming odds and how even as evil rears its head every generation, so does good, and that sometimes, fate is on the side of justice.
The thing I really appreciate about Araki is that he recognises that life isn't fair and incorporates it into JJBA without being too mean-spirited. Marco's fate in particular is the ultimate middle-finger to the idea that good things will eventually happen to good people. I spat out my drink and shouted WTF when I read that bit but then after thinking about it I decided that it really was the more realistic ending.
"Here's a bangin lil' tune about takin' on The Man!"
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What an awesome episode. That MUDAMUDAMUDA was so satisfying. That scene really shows Giorno's ruthlessness compared to the past Jojos though. Even Jotaro (probably the most ruthless Jojo until now, at least in terms of how many bad guys he's left likely dead/crippled for life) would usually give his enemies a chance to surrender when it looks like they've been defeated, and only ORAORAORA them when they inevitably try to stab him in the back anyways. Giorno straight up lies about sparing Cioccolata and then cold-bloodedly kills him anyways. Can't say the dude didn't deserve it, but it's moments like these that remind me the protagonists of part 5 are mafioso for a reason.
I'm a little surprised the end of the episode tried to go for some pathos in Cioccolata and Secco's relationship. Going by his final message, it looks like Cioccolata did genuinely care for Secco in some extremely twisted way. I'm getting kind of Harley Quinn and the Joker vibes from their relationship, even if it's the inverse in this case with Secco being the patient turned crazy follower and Cioccolata being the doctor/evil mastermind.
Also, were the subs in this episode wrong or did Cioccolata say he was experimented on as a child when explaining how he knew how to dissect himself without dying? Given there's no mention of him having that kind of tragic backstory anywhere else (and in the flashback we got two episodes ago he seemed like a typical honors student aside from his sadistic personality) I wonder if it was a mistranslation and the line really meant more like "Medical experiments I conducted as a child" (as in, dissecting animals/corpses and whatnot). I feel like that would make more sense but I'm just asking out of curiosity.
Lastly, hoo boy that scene before credits. I've unfortunately already been spoiled as to this particular twist, but I'm sure any anime-onlys in the audience are going wild when they saw that guy's rather familiar hairstyle.
Last edited by RoydGolden; May 25th, 2019 at 01:50 PM. Reason: Fixed grammar
I was more referring to the original universe, in which good does often prevail, in a fashion. Still, I do agree with you. Marco's fate is proof, as is Jonathan's. The latter is deader than dead in canon, and his only silver lining is that his descendants could continue the fight.
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TBH, I don't like the new universe as much because the story is no longer about heroism and heroes.
I was referring to both Universe as well, since there are numerous examples of individuals who are good people (Jonathan being one as you stated) who still suffer horrible ends.
I'd argue that the SBR-verse is still about good people triumphing overall, but Araki took a much more nuanced approach in making things less black & white where the protagonists are flawed but ultimately good people and the antagonists have plenty of admirable traits but still succumb to their vices in the end.
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True, true. Still, the original universe speaks to me as a call to heroism more, a call to be better than one's vices, and ultimately a celebration of the best of humanity. SBR retains some of that feel, especially with Valentine being who he is, but not quite JoJolion.
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I know I'm a volume or two behind in buying Jojolion, but I still feel like Josuke and company are fairly unambiguously heroic in their quest to clear out the posion choking the town of Morioh.
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Yeah, they're good guys, but I don't feel the story itself is really about their heroism, and more about several desperate people attempting to get the New Rokakaka Branch at all costs for their own separate goals. Yasuho is the one unambiguously heroic character, and she is mostly following Josuke, who despite being generally a better person than his opponents doesn't have a really heroic motivation to fight them.
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Also, they're not really trying to choke any poison out of Morioh, unlike the Part IV gang, at least, not intentionally.
Remember to use spoiler tags for the anime-onlys
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Sorry, I was under the impression I wasn't actually giving anything away. Also, you are right in that way. I do find it easy to forget how Jotaro didn't really get into stopping DIO until late SC, and the whole cape aspect of his persona only really existed from the end of Part 3 onward.
I concede.
7 PAGES OF MUDA translated decently well into the anime format. I'm pleased.
Now, make the Blu-Ray version of the scene an additional ten seconds longer and we're good.
Now that my favorite part of Part 5 is done, it's all (relatively) downhill from here. ;V ;p
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