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    His NP would depend. Are you summoning Demon Emperor Lelouch, or the Masked Hero Zero?

    Either way I doubt he'd have the Fleija specifically. More likely he'd have the Damocles itself (which happens to shoot Fleija)

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    Wouldn't he be summoned based on what was most associated with him? IE Demon Emperor Lelouch.

    Oh yeah, the Fleija are the bombs, the Damocles is the station that fire is.

    Boy, summoning that shit would probably kill most masters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    Wouldn't he be summoned based on what was most associated with him? IE Demon Emperor Lelouch.
    It should depend on what Catalyst you use, what class is available, etc.

    The Damocles Key would get you Emperor Lelouch. Zero's Mask gets you Zero- same person, different abilities.

    Oh yeah, the Fleija are the bombs, the Damocles is the station that fire is.

    Boy, summoning that shit would probably kill most masters.
    Probably maybe, depends on how it manifests. If he's like Semi for example (the most obvious comparison to make) the real problem would be the prep that goes into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    Yeah, both want to keep the world at peace at the expense of the people, be that through sheer fear, or lack of actual thinking.

    I wonder how he would manifest? Being the an "evil" Emperor, revered as the worlds enemies, such a strong perception could have an effect on him.

    Also would his NP be the Fleija?
    Schneizel's would be the Damocles, but he'd have to construct it first, and as for the Pioneer of the Stars or Light of Possibilities, I was talking about Lelouch. Sorry for being unclear.

    Zero's NP would probably be his own mystique, his Geass, and/or Shinkiro. Thus, I feel Lelouch could be, depending on time, a Saver (Zero), Avenger (Demon Emperor), Rider (with Shinkirou), or Caster (more emphasis on Geass).
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    Schneizel's would be the Damocles, but he'd have to construct it first, and as for the Pioneer of the Stars or Light of Possibilities, I was talking about Lelouch. Sorry for being unclear.

    Zero's NP would probably be his own mystique, his Geass, and/or Shinkiro. Thus, I feel Lelouch could be, depending on time, a Saver (Zero), Avenger (Demon Emperor), Rider (with Shinkirou), or Caster (more emphasis on Geass).
    Tell me, what would history, mankind, remember more?


    Prince Schneizel attempting to use the Damocles to defeat Emperor Lelouch?


    Or Emperor Lelouch sitting atop Damocles, his greatest rival in his eternal service, and giving out the grandest, and most terrifying, proclamation in human history.



    As for Geass, it would be a skill, much like Medusas mystic eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    Tell me, what would history, mankind, remember more?


    Prince Schneizel attempting to use the Damocles to defeat Emperor Lelouch?


    Or Emperor Lelouch sitting atop Damocles, his greatest rival in his eternal service, and giving out the grandest, and most terrifying, proclamation in human history.



    As for Geass, it would be a skill, much like Medusas mystic eyes.

    Both, or perhaps hate Prince Schneizel even more: after all, if he had not have the monstruosity that is Damocles built, Lelouch would have never been able to hijack it and use it to become the Demon Emperor... at least, not as quickly as he did in-series.
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    Could a Servant take on a high class Knightmare Frame on their own? I know the typical Sutherlands, Glasgows and maybe up to Vincent Ward level frames most Servants could likely take on in droves without issue, but what about the Ace Customs, most particularly the Guren SEITEN and the Lancelot Albion?
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    Main Canon Lelouch Zero and Nightmare Nunnally, now that would be a meeting of Servants worth seeing.

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    You'd need a pretty high level Servant to begin taking on one of the last gen Knightmares. Ridiculous maneuverability, ridiculous firepower, shields on most of them, flight, they're damn near as agile as the people in them, with the kind of strength expected of a fifty foot tall mech. It'd be like fighting a dragon in fast forward.
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    That's basically what I thought, but I think a mid-high level Servant could take on the 7th gen Knightmares without having to pilot a Knightmare of their own. Though there's also the question of if a Servant piloting a Knightmare might be a bit overkill.

    For me, the coolest would be Lancelot hijacking a Siegfried with Knight of Owner and wrecking everyone's shit with it.
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    Physically it would be a struggle for most servants to fight Knightmares that can fly, but most servants have magical bullshit that would probably surpass whatever tech the mechs can bring. All the heart piercing weapons, defense negating spears, swords made of the literal hopes and dreams of mankind, or things that alter causality, they all would wreck a knightmare.

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    Excalibur isn't actually made of the hopes and dreams of mankind. Pretty sure that's just what it came to represent metaphorically in the hands of Artoria. Also, considering Suzaku at least was fast enough with his Live command on to bamboozle Bismark's predictive Geass, he could probably avoid a fatal blow from Gae Bolg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Also, considering Suzaku at least was fast enough with his Live command on to bamboozle Bismark's predictive Geass, he could probably avoid a fatal blow from Gae Bolg.
    I doubt it. Servants are far faster then Suzaku for one thing. For another being fast doesn't get you around "I fuck Causality in the asshole" in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Excalibur isn't actually made of the hopes and dreams of mankind. Pretty sure that's just what it came to represent metaphorically in the hands of Artoria.
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    The pinnacle of holy swords, Excalibur was not forged by human hands. It was crystallized within the Earth, using the wishes of mankind as the basis.
    Nah it's pretty literal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Nah it's pretty literal.
    Oh, I see. I always get confused by that whole thing.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I doubt it. Servants are far faster then Suzaku for one thing. For another being fast doesn't get you around "I fuck Causality in the asshole" in the first place.
    Well, humans don't have a Luck stat, so...Also, what really matters is whether the Lancelot Albion is faster than Servants, because he was only able to beat Bismark's Geass in his machine, which I believe could match or exceed the stats of Servants.
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    I wouldn't say the Knightmares could exceed Servant speeds, Servants get some pretty ridiculous numbers in that category, but Knightmares don't really need to. Even if a Servant can outspeed or overpower them, though, most weapons aren't gonna be of much use, being not-giant-robot-sized, most NPs that aren't giant lasers wouldn't do much more than scratch away at the paintwork and hull, and some that are giant lasers probably wouldn't even get through their force fields. Not to mention even if the mech is moving relatively slowly, every bump against a Servant is gonna be like a 50mph car crash, only it isn't a car specifically designed to fold up and be less lethal in a crash, and is instead a solid steel wall.

    Like I said, it's like going up against a dragon that's made of metal, can turn on a dime, spawn force fields and can shoot lasers the size of city blocks and bullets the size of tank rounds.

    And even if we compare NPs, look at Gae Bolg. Stabby version doesn't even come into this battle, unless he can stand literally on the cockpit uninterrupted, and we've seen way more damage than GB thrown be blocked by mid-gen Knightmare force fields, let alone the monstrosities we see at the end of CG. Excalibur easily takes down even the super stronk Knightmares, but that's the toppest tier NPs can get without being some bullshit hax made by gods thing.

    That said, the conceptual fuckery is what might win Servants the day. If GB thrown is focused on drilling through the shields rather than the splitting into a bunch of thorns AoE damage it also does, it'll almost definitely pop the pilot. Also, they have a pretty hard active limit, and need those batteries changed out. If you get a good enough master, your chosen Servant can focus on dodging and guerilla plays till they outlast them.
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    Servant = 1 fighter plane + a maybe nuke
    Are Knightmares > fighter planes?
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    Yes, definitely. Fighter planes have long been rendered obsolete by even the original Glasgows in Code Geass, as have most conventional weapons. The only reason tanks and ships (blue water and air) still exist is because they can carry higher ordinance weaponry than Knightmares can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Yes, definitely. Fighter planes have long been rendered obsolete by even the original Glasgows in Code Geass, as have most conventional weapons. The only reason tanks and ships (blue water and air) still exist is because they can carry higher ordinance weaponry than Knightmares can.
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