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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    Well, he at least seemed to care about Saber, which is more than you can say about Sakura....
    Well, Sakura potentially giving birth to Angry Manjew would be rather bad in Archer's mind. Sakura was a threat to Rin too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    Well, he at least seemed to care about Saber, which is more than you can say about Sakura....
    Saber wasn't a threat to the lives of countless people who had nothing to do with her.

    Edit: What Elf said.

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    . . . And holy shit on Kansho and Baykura.

    They're monster killing swords that if someone had the real ones they could kill Rider in her most powerful form with one swipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elf View Post
    Well, Sakura potentially giving birth to Angry Manjew would be rather bad in Archer's mind.
    He didn't know that at that point, though.

    Sakura was a threat to Rin too.
    Perhaps, but you'd have though that he'd have at least tried to help her, if he truly cared. After all, he practically told Shirou "you need to stick with your ideal", in direct contradiction to his own experiences. He showed no signs whatsoever that Sakura was anything more than some girl who he had vaguely known once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    Perhaps, but you'd have though that he'd have at least tried to help her, if he truly cared. After all, he practically told Shirou "you need to stick with your ideal", in direct contradiction to his own experiences. He showed no signs whatsoever that Sakura was anything more than some girl who he had vaguely known once.
    Or, knowing Archer, he was doing it to get Shirou off his ass to help Sakura. Remember, he RARELY does anything directly.

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    Then tell me: Does he want Shirou to be a hero or not? Some of his actions say "no", some say "yes".
    Last edited by Keyne; April 12th, 2011 at 08:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyne View Post
    Then tell me: Does he want Shirou to be a her or not? Some of his actions say "no", some say "yes".
    Well . . . I still stand by my saying that Archer is the most Tsundere character in all of Fate so you can take your conclusions there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elf View Post
    Well . . . I still stand by my saying that Archer is the most Tsundere character in all of Fate so you can take your conclusions there.
    "I-it's not like I'm trying to kill you b-because I like you or a-anything, you idiot! .........uu~~ now I said it! Uuu~~ uuu~~ W-what are you making me say, idiot!! IDIOT SHIROU! IDIOTIDIOTIDIOTIDIOT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyne View Post
    Then tell me: Does he want Shirou to be a hero or not? Some of his actions say "no", some say "yes".
    Some things are more important.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    Some things are more important.
    Like what to cook for dinner? What elaborate menu with the use of exquisite components should be composed to successfully meet the expectations of fellow cosumers?

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    Like... I dunno, saving Fuyuki from Angry Manjuu? Getting the long-awaited Ilya/Rider/Caster/Ayako/Issei routes? World Domination?


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    Try harder then, Archer.
    * Dullahan 12/13/16 9:30pm
    there is an important difference between bullying and mindbreak
    * ~Keo 12/13/16 9:30pm
    one makes her cry and in one, she stops crying eventually

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    Or smex blocking Shirou.

    Shirou never manages to gets some until Archer gets killed off/shirowned(UBW).
    Can't be a coincidence.

    Edit: ninjas everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neir View Post
    Saber wasn't a threat to the lives of countless people who had nothing to do with her.

    Edit: What Elf said.
    Actually, most of the Servants are threats to innocent people. Look at the damage from the last Wars, plus the fact that other magi use unsavory methods. The 4th had what was it, dozens of children and others killed, and it was already said the 1st was a massacre.

    You'd be overinflating a threat, when the war itself puts people at risk (and caused the incident we are talking about). Why is such a threat not stopped 'til now?

    That's actually one of the things I was wondering about Archer. He should know the Grail is no good, so why not BP the Great Grail to dust? Why complete a broken ritual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    That's actually one of the things I was wondering about Archer. He should know the Grail is no good, so why not BP the Great Grail to dust? Why complete a broken ritual?
    LOL Nasu Plothole and bad plotting is my answer to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    Like... I dunno, saving Fuyuki from Angry Manjuu? Getting the long-awaited Ilya/Rider/Caster/Ayako/Issei routes? World Domination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elf View Post
    LOL Nasu Plothole and bad plotting is my answer to that.
    That is the answer to everything, lol.

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    Maybe Archer realizes that no one can develop as a person if they don't realize this crucial fact because "Tohsaka's Servant just prevented the ritual from ever happening in this session. Whuzzup with that? Well, we can wait ten more years or so, can't we? Lalalala~"

    Archer wants a plot, I guess.
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    I thought the Greater Grail Ritual didn't take physical form until like, 4 servants or so got consumed?

    @Keyne: What doujin is that and where can I get it?

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