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    死徒二十七祖 The Twenty Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors fire_mountain_30's Avatar
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    ok, here is the strange fake line that makes me think Gil is hiding something we may not know about yet (also, doesnt he have an ??????? NP in SF?)

    But, the object had too bizarre a silhouette to be called a simple dagger. It looked very similar
    to Gilgamesh’s summoning catalyst used by the magus that Tiné had eliminated earlier.
    “A key… sword?” Tiné murmured without thinking.
    Gilgamesh haughtily replied, “Do not speak of this in the same terms as the key in the hands
    of that clown.”
    Grasping the key-sword, Gilgamesh turned its tip skyward.
    “This is something like a contract I bound myself, given form.”
    His tone seemed bored, but his expression contained a hint of joy.
    “Pay attention, Tiné. And show me your proof.”

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    There is no need for Gil to fuse with anyone, because he already is a God, or Two-halves one. The thing is though Gil not accepting his heritage doesn’t lower his power, because that isn’t the source of his power. Gil’s strength comes only from one place, himself. Gilgamesh at his true strength isn’t him borrowing the power of any god, it’s him using his abilities to the fullest he can be. As someone who is the model for all Heroes, who sees through everything, who is more God then human. As the strongest Heroic Spirit, that’s where his abilities lie. I mean his Mystic Code isn’t him getting a new outfit like the rest of them, it’s literally him going serious.

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    That talk of a a Primordial form is a reference of how he refuses to go full power ever even if that ours lead to his death, only in certain circumstances does he decide to go all out like he did in a whim in HA and in CCC for Hakuno. The other time he did it was when they fought Tiamat.
    yeah, my bad. i thought BB had said it at the end of the fight, but it was at the start
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

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    With Grail Mud, I got rid of all my extraneous divinity, two feet of height, and a burning desire to get revenge on the Gods! Try Grail Mud today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    ok, here is the strange fake line that makes me think Gil is hiding something we may not know about yet (also, doesnt he have an ??????? NP in SF?)

    But, the object had too bizarre a silhouette to be called a simple dagger. It looked very similar
    to Gilgamesh’s summoning catalyst used by the magus that Tiné had eliminated earlier.
    “A key… sword?” Tiné murmured without thinking.
    Gilgamesh haughtily replied, “Do not speak of this in the same terms as the key in the hands
    of that clown.”
    Grasping the key-sword, Gilgamesh turned its tip skyward.
    “This is something like a contract I bound myself, given form.”
    His tone seemed bored, but his expression contained a hint of joy.
    “Pay attention, Tiné. And show me your proof.”
    mate the thing he has their is Babilu, the key to his treasury. The motions he’s doing, it’s something we saw him do before, it’s him pulling out Ea. Remember that scene in Zero with the big set up of him pulling out Ea, he pulled out that sword first, unlocked something so that he can take it out. That’s the contract he put himself under.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    i am aware of what he is doing, but using that sentence to reffer to just taking out the sword out of the vault is a really weird way to say it, so it makes me wonder if there is some facet to the Gate of Babylon that we dont know about yet and how it might relate to that ????? Np
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

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    With Grail Mud, I got rid of all my extraneous divinity, two feet of height, and a burning desire to get revenge on the Gods! Try Grail Mud today!

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    What ??????? Np

    What are you talking about
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    nothing makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    What ??????? Np

    What are you talking about
    Gil's stat page in has an NP that's blanked out.

    Though of course there's always the possibility it being Sha Naqba Imuru
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


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    i bet it's Enkidu
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    On You's tombstone it will read
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    I mean would anyone really be surprised if it's revealed that Gil has a secret ssj37 mode that he never uses because it was power given to him by the Gods or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I mean would anyone really be surprised if it's revealed that Gil has a secret ssj37 mode that he never uses because it was power given to him by the Gods or something?

    i wouldnt

    and we know enkidu is much strongerb than Gil because he gave up much of his power before meeting him, so i would expect Nasu to balance this power gap by saying that Gil has a final form
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    With Grail Mud, I got rid of all my extraneous divinity, two feet of height, and a burning desire to get revenge on the Gods! Try Grail Mud today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    hence why he also said that he would rather die than use this mysterious ability, but if my understanding of the scene is correct, BB was surprised at his level of power being at her level, but this was quite into the fight itself and near the end of it, implying that even though he fought her with the MMC since the start, now he was going over that level.
    BB is surprised that Nero, Nameless, Tamamo are at her level too. Why are people keep forgetting that the game has 4 playable servants and only focus on Gil thinking he is more special?
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    I mean his Mystic Code isn’t him getting a new outfit like the rest of them, it’s literally him going serious.
    It's still a new outfit. Because that outfit is installed with the origin cheat code to allow him to modify his stats as will and block BB's event manipulation. Without that special cheat code he can wear that outfit and still lose to BB. Remember that not just him but every servant got the cheat code. It looking the same as his serious outfit does not change the fact that he got power up like the rest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    i wouldnt

    and we know enkidu is much strongerb than Gil because he gave up much of his power before meeting him, so i would expect Nasu to balance this power gap by saying that Gil has a final form
    Where exactly are you getting this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    BB is surprised that Nero, Nameless, Tamamo are at her level too. Why are people keep forgetting that the game has 4 playable servants and only focus on Gil thinking he is more special?
    Because tsukinoura didn’t translate the Nero, Nameless, and Tamamo routes 😂

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    Cue Reiu crying from a distance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs View Post
    Where exactly are you getting this?
    enkidu backstory
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    With Grail Mud, I got rid of all my extraneous divinity, two feet of height, and a burning desire to get revenge on the Gods! Try Grail Mud today!

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    enkidu gained intellect at the cost of power, yes, but having a brain instead of being a brainless feral animal is a form of power in and of itself

    its not giving up power so much as trading off on kind of power over another
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    nothing makes sense

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    The mud puppet, ignorant of mankind, slowly allowed their form to approximate that of a human, which seemed to become that of the beautiful harlot sharing their food and bed with them, as if attempting to assume her beauty. Enkidu made her paradoxical beauty their own, losing much of their strength and divinity, though still retaining levels of both far above that of humanity, in exchange for wisdom and reason.[2][5]

    that and Faldeus saying that berserker enkidu would have been as strong as a god
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    With Grail Mud, I got rid of all my extraneous divinity, two feet of height, and a burning desire to get revenge on the Gods! Try Grail Mud today!

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    that just reinforces my point

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    its doubtful which is stronger, a feral brute animal or a weaker one but in possession of soul and intellect

    but if just being top physical absolute means being most powerful,
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    the Holy Grail War would be a scramble to summon Berserker."
    again, its not giving up power so much as trading off on kind of power over another
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    nothing makes sense

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    It's just like Alcides/Archer Herc vs Zerker Herc

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    It's just like Alcides/Archer Herc vs Zerker Herc
    Doesn't Archer Herc have like a shitload more hax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    Doesn't Archer Herc have like a shitload more hax?
    Hax in the ways of tools and items, Herk is more hax in just pure power. Or in more unstoppable power.
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    anywhere than here

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    There's not a big selection to choose from yet, but of the two LBs so far, which one's setting has interested you more? Not the story events going on in the chapter, but the history of their timeline and the way their societies work.

    I really like the Norse one. Would read a story about kids in a village there.

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