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    "Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right."

    - Emiya Shirou, 2015

    "The correct always fixes upon something pertinent in whatever is under consideration. However, in order to be correct, this fixing by no means needs to uncover the thing in question in its essence. Only at the point where such an uncovering happens does the true come to pass. For that reason the merely correct is not yet the true."

    - Martin Heidegger, 1954
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」— Tang Dynasty


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    gilgamesh took about 2 decades of actual characterization and telling
    i wouldnt call that wank

    neither is tamamo, which nasu just take from IRL myth

    and since when cu got wanked lol

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    if anything cu got the reverse of wank
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    I know for a fact he had anime hair rivaling Yami Yugi's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    gilgamesh took about 2 decades of actual characterization and telling
    i wouldnt call that wank

    neither is tamamo, which nasu just take from IRL myth

    and since when cu got wanked lol

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    if anything cu got the reverse of wank
    You mean from Amaterasu's IRL myth, because the real Da Ji doesn't have any connection to Amaterasu and is just a super wily youkai.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    i mean from s y n c r e t i s m of myths
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    s y n c r e t i s m
    everybody riots, plunders, arsons, murders, and a country fall into a civil war

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    accurate
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
    Nero,Musashi,Manaka,Gilgamesh,Cu and Tamamo.Character wank bordering on fanfiction is one of Nasu's biggest weaknesses as a writer.
    Like, I'll give you Nero and Musashi (to an extent)
    But, Cu isn't wanked, Tamamo (much to my dismay) is handled properly in universe, same as Gil, and is Manaka even from Nasu?

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    technically all jp samurais are wanked to a degree

    because superior nippon steel rulz
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    If anything Cu is badly nerfed compared to his original myth.

    Tamamo=Amaterasu makes sense?Amaterasu>>>Buddha makes sense?No.
    Buddha hasn't ever gone all out in the Nasuverse, so we have no real way of knowing. The one in Extra is barely trying at all and even when we 'win' it's more like he says 'eh, whatever' and leaves. Even in Last Encore, which is Nasu at his Nasuest, Buddha already said "Screw This" and left after brutally demolishing Nero like she owned him money, and nobody ever got to beat him.
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    Strange One participates in the Holy Grail War of Oxford as the master of Rider

    The Servants participating in this war are:

    Saber:Fergus mac Róich
    Archer:Napoleon
    Lancer:Medusa (big)
    Rider:Anne Bonny and Mary Read
    Caster:Anastasia
    Assassin:Hassan (Fake)
    Berserker:Ares
    Extra class:None
    Well. That doesn't seem so- oh SHIII-

    Alternatively...
    Hen_Ichi participates in the Holy Grail War of Slovakia as the master of Saber

    The Servants participating in this war are:

    Saber:Miyamoto Musashi
    Archer:Calamity Jane
    Lancer:Artoria Pendragon (Alter)
    Rider:Achilles
    Caster:Mephistopheles
    Assassin:Vespasianus
    Berserker:Oda Nobunaga
    Extra class:None

    RN was kinda grim-
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    I don't think I got this.
    Hey, I think I was in that grail war. As master of Detroit-kun =|
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
    Tamamo=Amaterasu makes sense?
    Yes, IRL Shingon Buddhism. The Ise Grand shrine where Amaterasu is enshrined went through a lot of crazy shit back then and finally they syncretized Amaterasu with Dakini-ten and Inari, then Kukai (founder of Shingon Buddhism) decided that Amaterasu is the highest manifestation of Dainichi Nyorai (Vairocana Buddha). And Dakini-ten is the nine tailed fox, aka Tamamo. There's even more connections through Taira no Kiyomori's myth. According to the myth he met a nine tailed fox one day while traveling, who revealed itself to be the Dakini-ten. This fox granted him immsense evil power to oppose the Minamoto clan and the government set up under Ex-Emperor Toba (notice this familiar name?) which later exploded into the legendary Genpei war between the Taira and Minamoto clan many years later. Some said Kiyomori used the curses he got from the fox to curse Toba (Tamamo cursed Toba).
    Amaterasu>>>Buddha makes sense?
    That is because in Shingon Buddhism, Dainichi Nyorai (Vairocana) is the ultimate Buddha, the Root, the equivalent to YHVH, while Gautama Buddha (Saver) is just one of the many other Buddhas manifested from Dainichi. That's why his NP is actually the ring of authority originally behind Dainichi Nyorai and his NP name is referencing Amida - the Mahayana's equivalent to Dainichi.

    Of course I'm salty because I'm Theravada Buddhist where Gautama is really really important. But what can I do about Japan and Nasu's love for Kukai?
    No.
    Yes.

    I'm not gonna diss you due to your lack of knowledge of the matter, this is a common question I've seen not just here but other places (read: reddit).
    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    You mean from Amaterasu's IRL myth, because the real Da Ji doesn't have any connection to Amaterasu and is just a super wily youkai.
    http://yokai.com/tamamonomae/
    That + the stuffs I said above.

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    speaking of Tamamo, is it possible that Beast IV aka Cath Palug aka Primate Murder is somehow linked to 白面金毛九尾の狐?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Yes, IRL Shingon Buddhism. The Ise Grand shrine where Amaterasu is enshrined went through a lot of crazy shit back then and finally they syncretized Amaterasu with Dakini-ten and Inari, then Kukai (founder of Shingon Buddhism) decided that Amaterasu is the highest manifestation of Dainichi Nyorai (Vairocana Buddha). And Dakini-ten is the nine tailed fox, aka Tamamo. There's even more connections through Taira no Kiyomori's myth. According to the myth he met a nine tailed fox one day while traveling, who revealed itself to be the Dakini-ten. This fox granted him immsense evil power to oppose the Minamoto clan and the government set up under Ex-Emperor Toba (notice this familiar name?) which later exploded into the legendary Genpei war between the Taira and Minamoto clan many years later. Some said Kiyomori used the curses he got from the fox to curse Toba (Tamamo cursed Toba).

    That is because in Shingon Buddhism, Dainichi Nyorai (Vairocana) is the ultimate Buddha, the Root, the equivalent to YHVH, while Gautama Buddha (Saver) is just one of the many other Buddhas manifested from Dainichi. That's why his NP is actually the ring of authority originally behind Dainichi Nyorai and his NP name is referencing Amida - the Mahayana's equivalent to Dainichi.

    Of course I'm salty because I'm Theravada Buddhist where Gautama is really really important. But what can I do about Japan and Nasu's love for Kukai?

    Yes.

    I'm not gonna diss you due to your lack of knowledge of the matter, this is a common question I've seen not just here but other places (read: reddit).

    http://yokai.com/tamamonomae/
    That + the stuffs I said above.
    I see. Did not realize Japanese syncretism got that crazy, and I too am somewhat salty Gautama got shafted in favor of Vairocana because we do share a name in common (similar spellings, same Sanskrit meaning) and because even Hindus respect him and have even co-opted him as the most recent Avatar of Vishnu.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    some people doesn't realize Musashi wank is actually Kojiro wank.

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    Musashi wank is totes s y n c r e t i s m
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    Quote Originally Posted by 34 View Post
    speaking of Tamamo, is it possible that Beast IV aka Cath Palug aka Primate Murder is somehow linked to 白面金毛九尾の狐?
    Is there any particular reason you think they would be?
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    Well there are even people on Twitter who put the scene of Tamamo being referred to as Maou in a joke event (the first FGO summer event) by the dumb pigs and then Hinako said she hates "the fox that is like Koyanskaya" in LB3 -> Golden Fox is clearly a TA turned Demon Lord.

    You can't stop the theorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Is there any particular reason you think they would be?
    nvm, i thought they both cute furry monstrosities i guess

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    Y'know, the fact that Fou doesn't seem to have anything to do with the actual Cath Palug is a massive tease and makes me really wanna see Sir Kay's battle with the monster animated.

    But I suppose that's just Merlin being Merlin with naming things. :/
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