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    Flat's anything but nothing special; otoh Shirou fits the Hufflepuff work ethic.

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    and perceived lack of brainpower, but gryffindor's central trait is courage to the point of stupidity
    like i believe he would be one of those cases where sorting hat barely even touches him before giving the verdict

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmadillo View Post
    not to get into this argument again, but Fate shows quite well that saber getting mauled by herc serves as a trigger for Shirou's mamoru overdrive, nothing like that happens to Rin in UBW. not that there are no inconsistencies in his gender attitudes
    Don't make me go over how this is bollocks again. Please.
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    Do what you wish, I don't see how your argument is incompatible with mine. I'm not saying his possessive overprotectiveness in Fate is exclusively tied to that one scene nor do I wish to do the whole "hesnotactuallysexist" routine.

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    I'm having a headache already from reading that comment

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    He's emasculated by years of Rin being better, stronger and cooler than him in every way, so he's all too happy to have another projection target. This one too being better, stronger and cooler than him in every way is another story all together.

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    Shirou the happy housewife.

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    His dad is to blame for not recognizing and encouraging his real talents and making him want to fight and shit.

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    he's to blame for not bringing in a little sister for shirou to take care of

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    A puppy would've worked.

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    didn't work out for John Wick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    Hell's teeth, I am sick of people using that as an excuse.

    No matter how strong she is or how armored she is, I think it's wrong for a girl to have to fight.
    (Fate, Day 3, Promised Sign)
    Before Berserker.

    "…? I'm talking about you. A girl shouldn't be swinging swords around, all the more so if you're hurt.
    …Oh wait, I don't even know if it's a sword or not, huh? Anyway! You're a girl, so you can't do that!"
    (Day 3, Tōsaka Rin (II))
    Before Berserker; after defeating both Lancer and Archer; she's healed herself, so the being hurt is rubbish; and in any case, he says 'all the more so', rather than 'because'.
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    mamoru overdrive is a special ability, it doesn't mean mamoru as a passive skill didn't exist before
    so no incompatibility

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    And my point was he never acts that patronizingly towards Rin*, who logically, being an unarmoured squishy human instead of an undead superhero in magic armour, is in far more peril than Saber.

    *Or if he does, I can't remember it.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Rin never declare she is going to fight head on against legendary powerful spirits

    In fact she said so much as "normally masters really shouldnt fight servants directly"

    I think he didnt fuss Rin for doing A the same way he fuss Saberr for doing A because Rin said she wont do A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    And my point was he never acts that patronizingly towards Rin*, who logically, being an unarmoured squishy human instead of an undead superhero in magic armour, is in far more peril than Saber.

    *Or if he does, I can't remember it.
    Not in her face at least afaik.
    There's a different relationship dynamic at play too ofc, apart from mamoru overdrive. Rin is the senpai and assumes a leadership role, while Saber is in a subservient role, which normally would impose on Shirou a responsibility for her safety.

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    TBF a lot of his changes in UBW come from after he watches saber beat down berserker, he rather admirably readjusts his thinking. In a very real since he forcibly breaks his own biases when confronted with evidence to contradict them. Not everyone would be able to do that. To a certain extent rin benifits from shirou having that situation occur. It does a lot to make him rethink his views on what is right for him to do regarding a woman more competent then he himself is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmadillo View Post
    mamoru overdrive is a special ability, it doesn't mean mamoru as a passive skill didn't exist before
    so no incompatibility
    And I contest that there's no functional difference in what he's saying before and after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Rin never declare she is going to fight head on against legendary powerful spirits

    In fact she said so much as "normally masters really shouldnt fight servants directly"
    Are we forgetting the scene where Rin's whole plan is for her to confront Caster all on her own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    And I contest that there's no functional difference in what he's saying before and after.
    Yet the bloody saber CG gets used again and again.

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