The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[Toa of Gallifrey]

Would be cool if a potential Tsukihime anime really played up the murder mystery aspects and Shiki suspecting the gaps in his memory are because he's the killer then you pull the bait 'n switch by revealing the existence of the vampires and Shiki's past as part of the Nanaya family.

In other words, I'd be totally fine if a Tsuki anime played fast and loose with the story as long as it felt fresh and interesting.

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Adapting Tsukihime straight-up presents too many problems on the series composition front alone. Routes are too incomplete by themselves and some aspects are too mutually exclusive to properly mix and match. I'd love it if it were told as a "Shiki route" where there is no main heroine. It could be seen as ripping off the way KnK presented the question of whether or not Ryougi was the murderer, but the payoff would be very different and it'd only mark the beginning of the story.

[GundamFSN]

after reading people's reactions to HF movie, I think I know the reason why Tsukihime anime adaptation is hard.

they need to animate Shiki killing and raping Arc.

if they don't animate Shiki's impulses right he will just become generic edgy sick chuuni teenage.

ufo did rape already so it's no problemo. Just make it 8-9 parts movie and we go.

[Rafflesiac]

Shiki only rapes people in bad ends so I dunno why you'd adapt those.

[Akyuu]

Would be cool if a potential Tsukihime anime really played up the murder mystery aspects and Shiki suspecting the gaps in his memory are because he's the killer then you pull the bait 'n switch by revealing the existence of the vampires and Shiki's past as part of the Nanaya family.

In other words, I'd be totally fine if a Tsuki anime played fast and loose with the story as long as it felt fresh and interesting.

I'd love this myself. Not that I can think of an existing example but I feel this might be the best way to go with adapting a multi-route VN. It's not a story where the romance is its strong draw in the first place so this is the sort of thing I'd wholeheartedly welcome assuming it ever happens.

As long as they keep the scene with Shiki and SHIKI drinking coffee together somehow.

[SpoonyViking]

Adapting Tsukihime straight-up presents too many problems on the series composition front alone. Routes are too incomplete by themselves and some aspects are too mutually exclusive to properly mix and match.

Nah, the manga shows it can be done, and well.

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

Nah, the manga shows it can be done, and well.

A manga has much more time to work with than an anime does, spoony.

[Zurvan]

just let tsuki die until in 20 years the remake comes out

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

I wonder if it will reach HL3 levels of vapor ware?

[OverMaster]

just let tsuki die until in 20 years the remake comes out

In Japan, the longer a franchise stays inactive the lesser the chances of it ever getting a comeback, and usually when they do the return is lame and bad as hell.

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

Tsuki is about 10 years now.

How long is inactive for Japan?

[Daiki]

I would rather have another fighting game at this point. Or three I guess.

[Zurvan]

In Japan, the longer a franchise stays inactive the lesser the chances of it ever getting a comeback, and usually when they do the return is lame and bad as hell.

that's not just japan my guy

and that sounds good

[Toa of Gallifrey]

Nah, the manga shows it can be done, and well.

The manga (I was speaking specifically about film or TV, but manga applies to a lesser extent) is a great adaptation of the Arcueid route (probably my favorite iteration of it) with some extra content that makes for a nicer ebb and flow with other routes, but it still doesn't get into the far side in any meaningful way, because it's not part of its scope, but my point being that Tsukihime isn't just near side.

[RoydGolden]

The manga (I was speaking specifically about film or TV, but manga applies to a lesser extent) is a great adaptation of the Arcueid route (probably my favorite iteration of it) with some extra content that makes for a nicer ebb and flow with other routes, but it still doesn't get into the far side in any meaningful way, because it's not part of its scope, but my point being that Tsukihime isn't just near side.

Most anime adaptations of VNs pick a specific route to adapt and stick with that (either that or try to cram all of them together like the DEEN anime did, which tends to make for a hot mess). No reason Tsuki would have to be different.

[OverMaster]

that's not just japan my guy

It seems to be more prevalent in Japan.

If Japan had had its own versions of Baywatch and Charlie's Angels decades ago, odds are they'd never bother to dust them off to make remakes.

[RoydGolden]

It seems to be more prevalent in Japan.

If Japan had had its own versions of Baywatch and Charlie's Angels decades ago, odds are they'd never bother to dust them off to make remakes.

Japan definitely remakes old classic franchises though. Look at Gatchaman Crowds and SSSS.Gridman for examples.

[NMR-3]

It seems to be more prevalent in Japan.

If Japan had had its own versions of Baywatch and Charlie's Angels decades ago, odds are they'd never bother to dust them off to make remakes.

Osomatsu-san.

[Zurvan]

As it turns out generalizing is hard

[Bobin]

Japan absolutely doesn't have the worse of it. I won't touch on whether it could be considered good or bad, but US has a lot of reboots that are barely recognizable.

[OverMaster]

Japan definitely remakes old classic franchises though. Look at Gatchaman Crowds and SSSS.Gridman for examples.

I don't think Gatchaman ever was gone for that long, I'm not counting franchises that are in semi-constant activity, like the Ninja Turtles would be in America. Didn't Gatchaman have new iterations in the nineties and early 2000s?