I guess he also doesn't like it because he thought it was pandering to Saber fans. If that wasn't what he was thinking he can correct me, I was just trying to save time by not asking and then waiting for his reply.Originally Posted by TypeWannabe
It's what he has talked about in the past though so I thought it was fair game.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
Eh, as long as you owned up to your mistake.
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You understand that Mike has talked about this before, right? Extensively. We all know how he feels about Last Episode and why, we don't have to infer anything.
That would be different, because Saber is dead in HF True, whereas Sakura is still very much alive (and being tortured) in Fate. Plus, LE Shirou is supposed to be a "hero", and yet he's not shown saving one of his closest friends from a living hell. Further, LE is not an ending you get following Fate, it's an ending that you get as a "reward" for completing the whole game (i.e., most likely just after completing HF...). I don't see why it should be expected to be Saber-centric.
But, regardless of that, I still don't like it. It's totally non-sensical (there's no way Shirou could go to Avalon) and it totally destroys the message that the rest of the story gives about heroism and Shirou's ideal. It's just pointless fluff that was added because Saber fans moaned that she didn't get to be with Shirou.
But it shouldn't be that way! Just because all somebody does is talk about that one thing forever and ever, doesn't mean that's all he does! Everybody deserves as many chances as it takes.
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I may, or may not address the rest of your post at a later time when I have time to burn, but this I have to get out of the way now.
You are not the author. Deal with it. He had a magic soul overwriting sheath in him for 10 years, that sounds good enough to me (whatever the actual reason is).
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
Not an expert or anything, but Merlin might still be around, and Shirou had Avalon in him, he'd projected it and knew how it worked.
It's not as far fetched as all that.
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Merlin got stuck in a tree. =P
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The fact that Nasu decreed it as possible does not mean that I have to like his blatent fanservicey retcon....
What exactly did it retcon again?
Retcon?
Far as I know, it wasn't ever stated to be impossible for Shirou/EMIYA to find his way there.
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Nasu is better than blatant fanservice imo.
So, you can either go by the people who say that he's better than blatant fanservice and this was the cherry on top of the F/SN sundae or you can go with me and say that he's better than blatant fanservice and proceeded to troll the fuck out of people wanting a better ending for SEIBAH.
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
"WAH WHY SABER END SO SAD!"
"Lol you're right LE GET!"
Fucking Last Episode.
You understand why it came to be the way it was because of how Nasu operates. I for one have no issue with LE, because there isn't anything that says Shirou can't go there. It's just like any other ending Nasu makes, and that is perfect setups for any future installment he could possibly think of. That is just how he writes. When he gives answers in something, it's mainly, imo, to provoke inquiry, speculation, and conversation on the topic. That is why he rarely gives flat out answers.
LE is just that. How did Shirou become a hero? How did he finally find his answers? What will he and Saber do for now? He makes it to give a definite conclusion while provoking the audience with filling the holes their own way. That way, no story is the final, truest, end. Maybe to him that would mean the death of a story to give such finality to it.
"Fate/stay night: not really an eroge, and not really a cooking sim, but actually an RPG wherein everyone’s primary stat is “self-loathing” and the goal is to level it up beyond all the other characters."
For all we know part of him becoming a hero was saving Sakura.
Fate was my favorite route. Although that partly has to do with the fact that the anime is what introduced me to the franchise and I liked it. Everything was new to me then and had a greater impact. Plus I always liked Saber best and considered that the "default" route. The other two routes were still good though.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Yeah, but that's the point. We don't know. And, since LE was shown after HF, there's no reason Nasu couldn't have told us.
That ending was just about Saber and Shirou though. It's not like it said anything about Rin or anyone else. I mean, I doubt most people thought of Sakura when they were watching it.
Since it's up in the air, just decide whatever pleases you most. If that means he saved Sakura, then go with that.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
I remember l3uster wanting a happy end for Ciel too. He said that Saber and Arc fans already got our happy endings, or something like that.
Well Ciel already got a Good End.
Cue rage in 3... 2..
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Ciel has a happy end. I just want Good End to stop existing.
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
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