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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    I think we should make the Wiki just... not cover characters. Make it more about the objective stuff, like mechanics and plot and Servant stats. Also, it could be a nice repository for translated material that helps out in random debates.
    Yeah! I could put some stuff from the secret blog I made to replace fuyuki in there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    I think we should make the Wiki just... not cover characters. Make it more about the objective stuff, like mechanics and plot and Servant stats. Also, it could be a nice repository for translated material that helps out in random debates.
    ^ Five knows what's up.

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    Yeah, I think that, as long as the wiki sticks to factual information, it should be fine. The issue is when it comes to things which are a matter of opinion. And even there, I'm willing to take a neutral viewpoint, provided everyone else is too. But, the issue is whether we can agree on what is "neutral"....

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    I'm sure character pages would be fine. Just stick to a format that nobody can argue isn't totally objective. Like, a translation of their official profiles or something.

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    As long as there are no difficulties with accessibility, a wiki would flourish, IMO. The thing with Milbunk's wiki was that only people who know about it in the first place would likely find it. If the forum has a highly-visible link to the wiki, such a problem could be avoided.

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    ...well, a great ton of us seem to be pessimistic about it, but I say screw that.

    Yes all the way!

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    Integration!?

    *Slams fist on the table.*

    NOT ON MY WATCH!

    Segregation now!

    Segregation tomorrow!

    Segregation forever!

    *Looks around.*

    Sorry, I've just always wanted to say that.

    On topic, I don't think a wiki is a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloble View Post
    ...well, a great ton of us seem to be pessimistic about it
    It's served us well so far!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    What, me stating something that I don't consider to be a "fact" that actually isn't a fact is a problem?

    Seriously, what do you think would happen if people start putting things like "Sakura is entirely responsible for everything that happens in HF" on the wiki? You don't need an explicit statement from me to work that out. Hell, even if I wasn't here, it would still happen....
    See, the problem is that you call that a "troll", but for some people (like me, for example) that is their honest and sincere interpretation. It would all end up degenerating into seeing which interpretation is more canonical, and then it would end in a flame war.

    Sincerely, seeing how BL is right now and the quantity of unsavory stuff going everywhere with a lot of users, I don't think it is the correct time to implement the wiki. It could be very helpful, yes, but as things are right now, it is only going to end pretty badly.


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    Besides, I don't see what's so terrible about looting anyway. It's only property, they're not actually harming anyone.
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    So now it's tied at 12:12
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    says the hater, you keep on hating, i'll be around ignoring your invalid, incorrect opinion.
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    I think you're underestimating the potential of BL members to act like mature adults when the time calls for it, Race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloble View Post
    I think you're underestimating the potential of BL members to act like mature adults when the time calls for it, Race.
    That happens very, very rarely, though, Bloble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycodrake View Post
    That happens very, very rarely, though, Bloble.
    I choose to believe in BL, even if it doesn't believe in me.

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    Oh come on, for the most part the userbase is totally civil...
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    Oh come on, for the most part the userbase is totally civil...
    Which kind of civil? Civil strife or civil war?

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    We're pretty chill. A wiki filled with non-subjective material would be more helpful than harmful, and having it as a tab accessible from BL itself would actually make people visit it.

    Of course, we'd need to actually promote it, much more so than Mil's done with his own project. :P
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    Basically what Five said.

    Honestly, the only issue for the Wiki if we're going by civility would be the characters themselves, as everyone has subjective views of them. The only real win-win way would be to have a very general description of the characters and simply keep it that way, otherwise you're going to end up with an edit war going on.

    That, or get Mil to promote his wiki a little more so it becomes common knowledge.



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    It was the same thing with the banners, people avoiding a change for the better to avoid butthurt.

    That's not how we get nice things.

    Though I stand by my "No" unless we get people who become dedicated wiki staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingeR View Post
    See, the problem is that you call that a "troll", but for some people (like me, for example) that is their honest and sincere interpretation. It would all end up degenerating into seeing which interpretation is more canonical, and then it would end in a flame war.
    Actually, it's not even that I'm calling it "trolling". The problem is that, as you say, both sides believe they are right. In that case, however, the correct thing to do is to include neither viewpoint (or, alternately, both).

    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    We're pretty chill. A wiki filled with non-subjective material would be more helpful than harmful, and having it as a tab accessible from BL itself would actually make people visit it.
    Exactly.

    The key word there is non-subjective. As long as people don't start claiming that Sakura is "objectively" evil, it won't be a problem....
    Last edited by Mike1984; May 5th, 2012 at 05:22 PM.

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    She is objectively a murderer. Enjoy your opinion.
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    says the hater, you keep on hating, i'll be around ignoring your invalid, incorrect opinion.
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