Yeah it's almost as sad as when that Fshy guy brags about how he's an IRC expert.Originally Posted by RR121
What was his BL username again, I forget.
Yeah it's almost as sad as when that Fshy guy brags about how he's an IRC expert.
What was his BL username again, I forget.
Perhaps, but they're not. What I said there was actually entirely rational, and several other people agreed with me on that. I was a bit harsh on IRUn, but my basic complaint was valid.
#notes was made to be a channel about the notes RP. People kept joining, and that rp is dead. They still come, and they happen to be from beast's lair. That does not make it a beast's lair channel, and it should have no bearing on your complaints about beast's lair. It's like complaining about a place across town that happens to have people you know in it.
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I loled.
[18:00] Spinach: Because I don't like Saber's personality but boy oh boy does she make my dick turn to diamonds when I see her getting tentacled.
[18:01] Leo: feeling superior to EU makes me hard
[16:16] <Bloble> Drakengard? Is that a rhythm game?
It does matter when DP starts giving out privileges to people on there....
Lyco: ;A;
Santo: :U Delicious delicious tears.
I still want my purple name.
You can't have it.I still want my purple name.
Because purple poisons the Soul. :V
Not really, no. Think of it like running into your boss (assuming he doesn't hate you) in a coffee shop.
And even though I agree on the name thing, I has absolutely nothing to do with how you decide to comport yourself here.
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[18:00] Spinach: Because I don't like Saber's personality but boy oh boy does she make my dick turn to diamonds when I see her getting tentacled.
[18:01] Leo: feeling superior to EU makes me hard
[16:16] <Bloble> Drakengard? Is that a rhythm game?
I want a purple name too.
Is this the lineup for purple names?
DP talking on #notes is fine (it would be exceptionally hypocritical of me to complain about people talking to admins off-forum...), the problem I have was solely him giving out privileges based on it, and even then I didn't consider it that big a thing.
Hey. Hey, hey. Everybody not talking about Mike's "last warning", please take it to the 7th. I don't even know why this is still active. As the message is addressed to Mike, why should it be public, and why should all of us (including myself) be putting our own opinions into this?
Then why are you here right now? Why does this topic exist, with you on the hot seat and the spot light? Why are people telling you that you are scaring new fanfic writers away, that you are rude to the mods, that you flame other members, that you don't change and generally that you are regarded as pariah to this forum, someone who should be banned? I could state my opinion about something without resorting to connotative language, anyone can do so. So, if you are simply expressing an opinion, then why are you accused of such things? Even I could attest to your modus operandi, Mike. Why does this topic exist, then?
Defending a belief need not to be heated and laden of name-calling.
Its simple enough, there were several valid reasons to take this public, but the most obvious was the simple fact that it would have been made so anyway, had we sent it privately, shortly thereafter some rage at the machine style blog or thread would have been created thereafter anyway, likely filled with a text wall litany of complaints that would make the OP of this thread look like a footnote, so we saved time and preempted that step. Plus it was better that our greviances were posted in a single continuous statement as opposed to separated and parsed out as mike would have undoubtedly done.
You know, for the life of me, I can't remember...
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Maybe that would have happened, maybe not. But, if you had made it private, it would at least have demonstrated that you were doing this to actually try to resolve the issue rather than to threaten me. By publicising it, you have ensured that there is no way to negotiate this or discuss this. It is just a set of demands which I have to obey or else, and if you do not stick to what you've said you're just inviting criticism.
You claim you want a "civil discussion", and yet you posted this in a form that makes that almost impossible to achieve.
yeah, i have to admit mike's right here, regardless of your intentions, this format shoots any resolution in the foot
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it is my firm belief that regarding the ban of mike1984 I have been given insufficient reason for the affair and it's conclusion, further than this I feel that the light manner it has been treated in is appalling. It is my sincere hope that he is not regarded in the same way as actually malicious posters who have appeared on beast's lair or otherwise as a joke to be snickered at when spoken of in the future. I will not forget my friend or view him in the manner those in charge here have presented him and his actions, nor will I accept the situation as it stands where people snicker at him as if he were a joke.
See, what has upset me the most about all of this is the way Altima has lied to me throughout the process. He came on MSN a few days ago and said "we need to have a talk, it'll be serious", and then said "no, it's not threatening". Then, a day later, he said "forget it, we're still talking about what to say". Then, he just acted like nothing was happening whilst they were obviously planning to drop this bombshell on me.
OK, I can understand their reasoning for making it public, because it almost certainly would have come out eventually, but I still think it was extremely unfair of them to just post it straight away without talking to me first. Particularly given that one of the main drivers for this was me doing exactly that with IRUn. If it's so bad for me to make a blog post about IRUn without giving him time to respond, then why is it OK for them to post a final warning to me without giving me a chance to respond or discuss it?
It was the right move to make. You say threat, I think the word "warning" fits better, and its one I truly hope you listen to.
Umm...if previous experience shows that the only thing that comes out of that is an angry blog or thread one goes from the "Maybe this will happen." to "According to the previously observed pattern this is almost certainly what will happen seeing as to it has happened pretty much every other time." >,>
And for the record. Usually you don't really negotiate. Most of the time you come across as "I am right everyone else is wrong so deal with it."
Me? I'm pleasantly surprised they openly admitted to giving you preferential treatment. I think better of them because of that.
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No, it's a threat. And, honestly, I will try not to get banned, but I do not trust your judgement at all, so I am not expecting much. Particularly given that you seem to expect me to be perfect.
Perhaps, but at least that way they would have tried to resolve the situation without resorting to public threats.
Honestly, all I really want from them is for them to talk to me about things like this as a person, not as Mike1984 the user. They all know me, they all have ways to communicate with me, why don't they actually at least try to make their concerns known to me? Despite what you might think, I am not an asshole, and I don't want to upset people. But, it's very hard to have any kind of discussion when you're being threatened.
That is simply not true. I do "negotiate", it's just that the negotiation usually happens privately, not via a blog post. The blog post is the result when the negotiations are not working or, more commonly, in order to get the admins to actually bother even trying to negotiate in the first place.And for the record. Usually you don't really negotiate. Most of the time you come across as "I am right everyone else is wrong so deal with it."
Last edited by Mike1984; October 23rd, 2012 at 02:57 PM.
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