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    Few questions. Are you aware there are probably as many definitions of art as there are art critics and theorists, and there are at least a couple that are taken into consideration by academic circles, sometimes at the same time even though they can be contradictory?
    This is because 'art', a mode of human expression, is heavily context-dependent. This context is historical, social, cultural, geographic, political. It is good that we can all say our piece on things we see and experience, but doing so without the neccessary tools means that what you're saying can't not be subjective.
    That it is subjective is an inevitability. What is foolish is the attempt to make things entirely subjective to the degree that they are not held to standards. To say that something bears no objective characteristics is to say that it doesn't have a point. And that's the absurdity of your claim. There are objectives to art.
    1. To be a successful artist
    2. To express art successfully
    3. To produce successful art.
    And many beyond that. It's not obvious to me that art exists solely for human expression.
    What is poor about modern art is that it's bad and bears either no meaning, or that meaning which is vile. A majority of fine art nowadays is predicated upon the examination of a social context and the goal of many artists is to perpetuate pejorative views and demean artistic standards for the sake of artistic rebelliousness. I am aware that artists bear a great propensity to be left-leaning, and that's fine and dandy because anybody who knows anything about personality psychology knows that artists tend to be high in openness to experience, which is a left-leaning trait.


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    For any claim on objectivity you have to immerse yourself in the context, and a person finds, as I personally have found, that doing so opens up your mind, allows you to appreciate in different ways things you never appreciated before, and even to peer into the complex connection between art and the human heart. Getting a glimpse of the heart of someone who has lived centuries before you, their thoughts, their fears, their desires, what drove them. There are few things in life and learning as rewarding as this experience.
    I have immersed myself in the context. I have immersed myself in many different contexts and derived a multitude of perspectives from those experiences. I was a communist, very much like you are, and I was retarded. What art in modern times speaks to me is either an illness or neurosis. These people who cast away good things like values and standards in spite have hearts filled with tumors and bad cholesterol. There's nothing bad about examining someone or something. What is poor is viewing a pathology as a virtue.

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    Also, what do you think brutalism is, exactly? What does the name mean, how did the definition come into being and what does it describe? I regret to inform you that 'brutalism', in the context you're using it in, is a shorthand. It's a buzzword, aesthetic junkfood par excellence. It is useful only when all parties involved know it for what it is. Using it to seriously discuss architecture is the equivalent of defining something as 'bathroomtileism' or 'shingleroofism'.

    Context, context, context....
    Brutalism was an appalling artistic movement. The goal of architecture as art is to breathe life into a landscape. There's nothing beautiful about haplessly designing a concrete prison and making your tenants feel one year closer to 1984.


    The prince says that the world will be saved by beauty! And I maintain that the reason he has such playful ideas is that he is in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gl❀w View Post
    you, for example
    Implying that it is my goal to be nice. "True" and "nice" are not synonymous, honey.


    The prince says that the world will be saved by beauty! And I maintain that the reason he has such playful ideas is that he is in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujaya View Post
    That it is subjective is an inevitability. What is foolish is the attempt to make things entirely subjective to the degree that they are not held to standards. To say that something bears no objective characteristics is to say that it doesn't have a point. And that's the absurdity of your claim. There are objectives to art.
    1. To be a successful artist
    2. To express art successfully
    3. To produce successful art.
    And many beyond that. It's not obvious to me that art exists solely for human expression.
    What is poor about modern art is that it's bad and bears either no meaning, or that meaning which is vile. A majority of fine art nowadays is predicated upon the examination of a social context and the goal of many artists is to perpetuate pejorative views and demean artistic standards for the sake of artistic rebelliousness. I am aware that artists bear a great propensity to be left-leaning, and that's fine and dandy because anybody who knows anything about personality psychology knows that artists tend to be high in openness to experience, which is a left-leaning trait.



    I have immersed myself in the context. I have immersed myself in many different contexts and derived a multitude of perspectives from those experiences. I was a communist, very much like you are, and I was retarded. What art in modern times speaks to me is either an illness or neurosis. These people who cast away good things like values and standards in spite have hearts filled with tumors and bad cholesterol. There's nothing bad about examining someone or something. What is poor is viewing a pathology as a virtue.


    Brutalism was an appalling artistic movement. The goal of architecture as art is to breathe life into a landscape. There's nothing beautiful about haplessly designing a concrete prison and making your tenants feel one year closer to 1984.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujaya View Post
    Implying that it is my goal to be nice. "True" and "nice" are not synonymous, honey.
    what you've put forth thus far is neither.


    a word of advice: resorting to cheap, condescending terms of 'endearment' as a means to devalue another in conversation only serves to delegitimize yourself.
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    you can choose to instead be emotionally constipated I guess
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    Laugh with me megas, taking this conversation serious is only for true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gl❀w View Post
    what you've put forth thus far is neither.


    a word of advice: resorting to cheap, condescending terms of 'endearment' as a means to devalue another in conversation only serves to delegitimize yourself.
    Under what circumstance am I attempting to devalue you? I respect you just like I respect everyone else on this website, even if you're wrong. You may be taking this debate a little bit too seriously if that tiny little quip registered as a genuine insult. I apologize if I insulted your character.


    The prince says that the world will be saved by beauty! And I maintain that the reason he has such playful ideas is that he is in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujaya View Post
    Under what circumstance am I attempting to devalue you? I respect you just like I respect everyone else on this website, even if you're wrong. You may be taking this debate a little bit too seriously if that tiny little quip registered as a genuine insult. I apologize if I insulted your character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujaya View Post
    That it is subjective is an inevitability. What is foolish is the attempt to make things entirely subjective to the degree that they are not held to standards. To say that something bears no objective characteristics is to say that it doesn't have a point. And that's the absurdity of your claim. There are objectives to art.
    1. To be a successful artist
    2. To express art successfully
    3. To produce successful art.
    And many beyond that. It's not obvious to me that art exists solely for human expression.
    What is poor about modern art is that it's bad and bears either no meaning, or that meaning which is vile. A majority of fine art nowadays is predicated upon the examination of a social context and the goal of many artists is to perpetuate pejorative views and demean artistic standards for the sake of artistic rebelliousness. I am aware that artists bear a great propensity to be left-leaning, and that's fine and dandy because anybody who knows anything about personality psychology knows that artists tend to be high in openness to experience, which is a left-leaning trait.



    I have immersed myself in the context. I have immersed myself in many different contexts and derived a multitude of perspectives from those experiences. I was a communist, very much like you are, and I was retarded. What art in modern times speaks to me is either an illness or neurosis. These people who cast away good things like values and standards in spite have hearts filled with tumors and bad cholesterol. There's nothing bad about examining someone or something. What is poor is viewing a pathology as a virtue.


    Brutalism was an appalling artistic movement. The goal of architecture as art is to breathe life into a landscape. There's nothing beautiful about haplessly designing a concrete prison and making your tenants feel one year closer to 1984.
    1) You didn't answer my questions on brutalism

    2) Refrain from using pejoratives and slurs on this forum

    3) idk what three is I'm not even sure you read my post lmao

    4) is your room clean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujaya View Post
    The real tragedy is that beauty has been subjectivized. I know that there are things in this world that bear incalculable beauty and many of them are much, much older than you are and have been abandoned because they had "standards". Nihilists and subjectivists are incapable of producing anything beautiful, and it's my objective as an intellectual and artist help to return these standards to light.
    You may be an artist (though whether you're a good one, much less one capable of upholding any standards at all, is a different topic), but judging your statements here, you aren't an intellectual.
    Let me try and offer you one piece of constructive advice: a good artist experiences more than they produce, and they also try and experience many different styles, ideas and worldviews exactly so as to broaden their mind.
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    for a second i thought megas was mac and hoo boy was that a weird post
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    you can choose to instead be emotionally constipated I guess
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    and no disrespect who the fuck is glow




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