Random Thoughts Thread

[Mcjon01]

I suppose this would be a bad time to mention ECT is one of the most effective treatments for certain long term conditions?

we don’t do it at my hospital, but we refer a few clients who could benifit.

it gets a bad wrap

Have they figured out why it works yet or are we still at “beats me but can’t argue with results”

[Gl❀w]

None of the bands posted or the e-sports teams I know of had a rule of "dudes only". They simply happened to be composed entirely of dudes.

Quick question, if there was an intentional audition process for an all guy sports team, would they too be an experiment doomed to flounder or is “one gender” a euphemism

[Tobias]

Have they figured out why it works yet or are we still at “beats me but can’t argue with results”

Thats a good question.

its more like “we know why it works and we know that it works pretty well...but we can’t tell if the reason it doesn’t last in some cases is because we don’t fully understand the long term effects...or because it works well enough that the people using it stop taking their meds or doing their follow up protocols and end up losing the benifit”

if if that makes sense?

[SpoonyViking]

That stuff went the way of the dodo a long time ago. You can do chemical restraints, that’s the thorazine, but you can’t do any other kind.

I suppose that's for the best, really. Would increased monitoring be any effective?

[Tobias]

I suppose that's for the best, really. Would increased monitoring be any effective?

Not really. The camera feeds are pretty good and there is usually someone watching. But you would be surprised how damn long the thirty odd seconds between someone seeing the altercation and calling the code white can feel when someone is trying to throttle you unconscious

[SpoonyViking]

Oh, I do know that, though thankfully not from personal experience.

[Deathhappens]

Quick question, if there was an intentional audition process for an all guy sports team, would they too be an experiment doomed to flounder or is “one gender” a euphemism

That would depend on whether the sport was mixed gender to begin with, for one. Off the top of my head the only one I can think of is horse-racing. As for E-sports, which is what this conversation has been all about, yes, pointless gender restrictions would still be a negative factor for the growth of any team, but the difference between "no dudes" and "no gals" is that one happens to be 90% of the talent pool and the other one 10, if that. It's like asking why trying to compete in a biking tournament without a saddle and trying to compete in a biking tournament without a bike aren't equally penalised.

Of course, this was a poor attempt at appealing to hypocrisy rather than an actual argument, but we're not in a real debate either.

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I'm sure they never had a sign on the wall saying "NO GRILLS ALOUD" but that's not the point. These things aren't literally spelled out anywhere, they're social and cultural constructions. It's a big part of the same reason why women only represent 5% of Fortune 500 CEOs; I'm pretty sure these companies don't have a hard and fast rule on paper that disallow women from holding top positions. It's never a case of "simply happened to be composed entirely of dudes" when it's that widespread.

If companies want to make an all-female or all-male group of whatever, and there's a niche for it and they put effort into it, no reason to think they're fundamentally doomed to fail. Same with this, just because they're all one (female) gender.

The problem with this argument is that they aren't doomed to fail because they're females, they're doomed to fail because they've limited their recruitment pool to a tiny percentage of the whole. They're barely going to have enough members to keep a team going, let alone enough talent to seriously aim for a trophy (and just which e-sport will they be competing at, anyway?). Like I said, the whole thing smacks of publicity stunt. Which is fine and all, make idols and make money, but it actually hurts the chances for other female gamers to compete/form teams in the future, because this is what they're going to be compared to.

[AAM1232]

I mean if you want an example of what not to do there's League's Team Siren

[Historia]

[korean pop artists]

thanks honey

[Deathhappens]

Suddenly, Tenryuu.

[Historia]

[Deathhappens]

CUTE!

[Snow]

That would depend on whether the sport was mixed gender to begin with, for one. Off the top of my head the only one I can think of is horse-racing. As for E-sports, which is what this conversation has been all about, yes, pointless gender restrictions would still be a negative factor for the growth of any team, but the difference between "no dudes" and "no gals" is that one happens to be 90% of the talent pool and the other one 10, if that. It's like asking why trying to compete in a biking tournament without a saddle and trying to compete in a biking tournament without a bike aren't equally penalised.

Of course, this was a poor attempt at appealing to hypocrisy rather than an actual argument, but we're not in a real debate either.

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The problem with this argument is that they aren't doomed to fail because they're females, they're doomed to fail because they've limited their recruitment pool to a tiny percentage of the whole. They're barely going to have enough members to keep a team going, let alone enough talent to seriously aim for a trophy (and just which e-sport will they be competing at, anyway?). Like I said, the whole thing smacks of publicity stunt. Which is fine and all, make idols and make money, but it actually hurts the chances for other female gamers to compete/form teams in the future, because this is what they're going to be compared to.

You don't know very much about how this works do you?

[I3uster]

this conversation is bad but at least it made me remember a real one

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ToSsGirL

had to retire because of the half life on video game careers but this sentence still kind of owns

ToSsGirL won every female league that she had entered.

[Snow]

Don't look at me I can't even post cute girl news without being accosted by internet blowflies

[I3uster]

tfw no 300 apm gf

[Gl❀w]

Last night a guy asked if I could help him find books in a genre I don’t read, similar to a book he read a year ago, whose title he couldn’t remember, by an author whose name he couldn’t recall, with a writing style he thought was just perfect but that he couldn’t describe.

Being the hired miracle worker I am, I found the book, the author, and the rest of the books in the series for him.

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This Christmas, please make sure to show a little extra love to your local bookstore employees

[Snow]

Do you give book recs?

[Gl❀w]

Sure but my reading is kind of all over the place so it’s difficult

[Snow]

Mine too, that's why I don't end up reading most recs I get because my mind works stupidly and I never end up liking things I should by all accounts be into