Fate/strange fake (Free-Range Spoilers)

[HetareTTK]

>ステュムパリデスの鳥
>由来:第六の試練「ステュムパリデスの鳥」で退治された怪鳥
>アルケイデスの放つ青銅の矢を金属の翼と嘴に爪を青銅に包んだ巨大な鳥に変化させる。
>フィリアを仕留めるために使用したが、真バーサーカーには全く歯が立たなかった。

>ケルベロス
>由来:第十二の試練「地獄の番犬ケルベロス」で捕縛された魔獣
>象の成獣程もある大きさの三つ首犬を召喚させる。
>ハデスの加護を持っていないため強さも神獣には及ばず、『悪霧は倫敦の暁と共に滅び逝きて』で悪魔に変身 したジャックに倒されてし った。

Apparently all of Alcides NPs with the exception of his NP stealing one are nerfed becasue they're tied to the mysticism of the actual era and his own divinity, so since Snowfield is low in mysticism and he gave up his own divinity since he told the gods to fuck off, they're double nerfed.

[Rafflesiac]

Are those the Stymphalian Birds I see?

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also lol at nerfed alcides still shitting on anyone and everyone

[GundamFSN]

Nerfed they say.

Cloth is a Singularity.

Okay.

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Demon Jack beat Cerberus.

[castor212]

i just want confirmation of whether or not proper!Archer Herc would have all 12 or not tbh

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>フィリアを仕留めるために使用したが、真バーサーカーには全く歯が立たなかった。
>ハデスの加護を持っていないため強さも神獣には及ばず、『悪霧は倫敦の暁と共に滅び逝きて』で 悪魔に変身 したジャックに倒されてし った。

Edison and Jack tsuyoi?

[Ronove]

>ステュムパリデスの鳥
>由来:第六の試練「ステュムパリデスの鳥」で退治された怪鳥
>アルケイデスの放つ青銅の矢を金属の翼と嘴に爪を青銅に包んだ巨大な鳥に変化させる。
>フィリアを仕留めるために使用したが、真バーサーカーには全く歯が立たなかった。

>ケルベロス
>由来:第十二の試練「地獄の番犬ケルベロス」で捕縛された魔獣
>象の成獣程もある大きさの三つ首犬を召喚させる。
>ハデスの加護を持っていないため強さも神獣には及ばず、『悪霧は倫敦の暁と共に滅び逝きて』で悪魔に変身 したジャックに倒されてし った。

Apparently all of Alcides NPs with the exception of his NP stealing one are nerfed becasue they're tied to the mysticism of the actual era and his own divinity, so since Snowfield is low in mysticism and he gave up his own divinity since he told the gods to fuck off, they're double nerfed.

This sounds stupidly redundant since Alcides is just a corrupted Herc without divinity in the first place. King's order is an indirect associate of that lost divinity so why would that be a requisite of strength?

The bit about the era's mysticism makes sense since they lived in an age where it thrived. Even Gil is nerfed by it, IIRC.

[You]

>ハデスの加護を持っていないため強さも神獣には及ばず、『悪霧は倫敦の暁と共に滅び逝きて』で 悪魔に変身 したジャックに倒されてし った。

Edison and Jack tsuyoi?

this cerberus doesn't have hades' divine blessing so he's not a divine beast.
he's weaker

[Bobin]

Alcides is the very image of hell right now

Looking like satan, walking his pet cerebus around, opposing god

[castor212]

this cerberus doesn't have hades' divine blessing so he's not a divine beast.
he's weaker

is it still ok to call jack tsuyoi

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also i really hope proper divine Herc on non zerker class get dont get all 12

[jennajayfeather]

is it still ok to call jack tsuyoi

I'd say it's still okay, because 200 demons is nothing to sneeze at (though it's Flat & the city making Jack strong).

Something I wonder is if Alcides knows about the conditions of the NP? It'd be cool if they bait him to the desert where there's no people around to weaken him.

[ballinamon]

Alcides remains as a demon or return to normal?

[Amazigh]

i just want confirmation of whether or not proper!Archer Herc would have all 12 or not tbh

I believe it's hinted at that he wouldn't, instead having Godhand, since it's stated King's Order only manifests as his Noble Phantasm in response to the loss of Godhand.

[castor212]

It manifested in response of his loss of immortality and divinity, not exactly GH tho

[You]

It manifested in response of his loss of immortality and divinity, not exactly GH tho

Therefore if Herc has GH he wouldn't have 12
Because GH is the embodiment of his immortality

A blessing of Gods, as well as a curse. It is a Noble Phantasm given to Heracles, representing immortality. This Noble Phantasm does not have an overt external manifestation such as a weapon or armour, but if you hazard to put a shape to it, the body itself can be called the Noble Phantasm.

[RCM9698]

Do we know something more about Alceides' 3rd NP? Can it steal all Noble Phantasms? For example, Ea is said to be a completely unique existence that can only be possessed by Gilgamesh.

On a side note, do we know anything about the release date of volume 5? I hope that they speed up their schedule to two volumes a year like they originally planned.

[jennajayfeather]

Do we know something more about Alceides' 3rd NP? Can it steal all Noble Phantasms? For example, Ea is said to be a completely unique existence that can only be possessed by Gilgamesh.

This is just an assumption on my part, but I bet when Alcides asked Gil to bring out his strongest weapon, he probably had plans to steal it. And like, honestly Alcides being able to use From Hell is already ridiculous because it's not even like a sword or something it literally turns the self into a demon, so I wouldn't scratch off Ea

[HetareTTK]

I think Alcides being able to use all 13 of his NP plus his NP stealing one are a trade off from his God Hand but that is to say I don't think eh wouldn't have any of them if he were to be sane, I think like any other servant he'd have some of them depending on his class, given that he was already wearing his Nemean Lion before he got corrupted and that the Stymphalian Birds where arrows that transformed into them we can at the very least he'd have those two if he were to properly be summoned into Archer class, that plus God Hand and Nine Lives Works PLUS the fact that none of them would be edgy nerfed, it's safe to assume that him being summoned into Archer class is still the strongest class.

[You]

so I wouldn't scratch off Ea

i would

Cannot be copied

あらゆる宝具の原点をもつギルガメッシュだが、他の英雄がもち得る他の宝具とは違い、乖離剣エ アだけは彼の みがもち得る唯一無二の存在。そのため、「無限の剣製（アンリミテッドブレイドワークス）」でも複製するこ とはできない。

Though it is wielded by Gilgamesh, who has the prototypes of every Noble Phantasm, the Sword of Rupture Ea is different from the other Noble Phantasms that can be possessed by other heroes. It alone is a completely unique existence that can only be possessed by Gilgamesh. Therefore, even with Unlimited Blade Works, it is impossible to reproduce it.

Interesting. So less crazy alien materials, more THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.
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so now you know how he's going to die

[HetareTTK]

It's not being copied tho, it's being stolen. The whole "can't be copied" bit is a counter to EMIYA more than anything.

[You]

read the text i bolded

[HetareTTK]

I read it but it really just seams like a "Gil is the only one that can be summoned with it" sort of deal, and even if Alcides couldn't use it if he were to take from Gil that'd still be his strongest weapon being stolen from him so it's a huge advantage.