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    Gil powerlevel never really changed, dude was always supposed to be stronger than everything.

    Wouldn't take a throwaway line here above every other line we have of Ea, even in F/SN itself.
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    It's paired wank. Every time Nasu wanks Gil, Saber is indirectly wanked as well. He buffed up Gil for CM3, and all of a sudden Shirou couldn't project Excalibur anymore.

    But really, it's always been "on the same level as Excalibur", going back to the actual game text. It's the world ripping effect that makes it so special.
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    the red tornado is on Excaliblasts level (a windattack on the same level as a beam is in a way even more amazing though); the worldripping is a different technique which works differently (rotating force fields instead of wind), the windblast doesnt have the worldripping.

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    Relevant?

    Its maximum damage is 4,000. But, with the support of the Noble Phantasms in his treasury, the damage increases even further. It has equal or superior output to Saber's Excalibur, and it is a sword that "cut apart the world".
    Also wtf is Break on about?

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    some people consider what gil does in zero with the full power activation to be something like a different attack all together, like gae-bolg or something I gather.
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    Isn't it supposed to be the same thing with more juice (he does it in HA too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    some people consider what gil does in zero with the full power activation to be something like a different attack all together, like gae-bolg or something I gather.
    Complete retard logic. He calls out Enuma Elish whenever he used it. Not to mention there was a mention of a dislocation of space at the end of the Fate route and everything, not to mention he used a full power version in fate and there was no mentions of new effects.

    And the one I just posted was after his first use of it during the Fate route and everything and it mentions cutting in space and shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackField View Post
    Complete retard logic. He calls out Enuma Elish whenever he uses the maximum effect. Not to mention there was a mention of a dislocation of space at the end of the Fate route and everything, not to mention he used a full power version in fate and there was no mentions of new effects.
    I know, he tries it against saber and gets avalowned. just...go with it, its easier.
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    used a full power version in fate
    Don't think so? That only happens in HA and Zero IIRC
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    the scene says pretty explicitly gil is going all out, but eh, you never know these days


    Well gil was going all out with the power only needed to defeat saber, not all out with the full power of the king's royal weapon! -nasu

    or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    Don't think so? That only happens in HA and Zero IIRC
    It reached maximum rotations. I'm pretty sure that means maximum power considering it gets its power from the rotations.

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    eh, dont take it to seriously BF. like I said, it talks about max power EA, but its the kind of thing that gets walked back later, so just decide how you like on that.
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    CCC explicitly says that fullpowered worldripping star of rupture Enuma Elish uses 3 rotating force fields, which the windblast visibly doesnt. So yeah. Admittedly its kind of a retcon though

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    It does? Does it refer to Ea in that scene or Gilgamesh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackField View Post
    It reached maximum rotations. I'm pretty sure that means maximum power considering it gets its power from the rotations.
    Yeah, only maximum rotations. It didn't even exceed the maximum rotations, it's like Gil wasn't even trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackField View Post
    It reached maximum rotations. I'm pretty sure that means maximum power considering it gets its power from the rotations.
    Iunno, it's not like it's a drill or something, wasn't it said Gil can't even use it to its full power? The fact that he gets it to full rotations doesn't mean anything if we take that into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    Iunno, it's not like it's a drill or something, wasn't it said Gil can't even use it to its full power? The fact that he gets it to full rotations doesn't mean anything if we take that into account.
    It was technically "said", yes. (By us.)
    Because we did math and couldn't figure out how to make it say 4000.

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    iirc its a difference wether he goes all out with the sindblast or with the explicit world-destroying. He probably decided that attackinf Saber wasnt worth destroying the planet in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    It was technically "said", yes. (By us.)
    Because we did math and couldn't figure out how to make it say 4000.
    Great fanon Scott!

    ...still I'd be kind of wary to take the Fate Ea as maximum powah, I mean it's not like Gil was even in tryhard mode at the end of Fate. HA or Zero seem like a better benchmark for that.
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