Titanomachy (OOC)

[RacingeR]

Okay, I'm back.

Yeah, IRL shat on me pretty hard. Don't really wanna talk about it.

So, into business.


I've been meaning to get back into this by making a megaupdate for each player, but after thinking through some things, I realized that this long time of hiatus is probably a good way to talk and think about some changes.

To put it simply, the issue is the system. It is a bit of a pain in the ass to return to battle scenes where I need to crunch numbers and deal with the math involved. It also slows me down a lot when it comes to creating content that will then be applied to the RP itself, such as enemy sheets, NPC sheets, etc. Moving the game to restrained interpretative, following a system much like Nightfall's, would probably accelerate things a lot, and make stuff much easier on my end. There's also the concern of balance, which has been wonky for a while, and stuff like Invocations which I have to struggle trying to find a balance between not making them gamebreaking, but not making them useless either.

On the other hand, the system has helped the threatening ambience of Titan a lot, without the feeling of safety that seems to come a lot with interpretative RPs. Boss fights as tense as Fisher King and Lycao would probably not have had the same impact or ambience without the strict number system involved, and I was pretty happy with what I pulled off in these. I can't be sure if I'll be able to keep the same sort of feel when switching to an interpretative system, but I may be able to pull it off nonetheless. We'd have to see what happens.

So, I'd like to leave the decision up to the players, since you guys are the ones who enjoy the game, and it is a very hard decision for me to make by myself. Titan is a thing we make between all of us, after all.

So please vote between these two options:

A) Make a move to an interpretative system.

B) Keep the number-based system.

Either way, even if option B wins, I am likely to make a change to the system. I've had an expansion in the works for years, and this decision would heavily affect the content this expansion will have, but I am going to make it either way. It'll also imply going over each and every PC sheet and changing stuff, which I'm also gonna take as a chance to do a roll call: those who don't vote or aren't around for the sheetmaking are gonna be considered as having left the RP, and their PCs will be either NPC'd or killed off, depending.

Regardless of anything, I'm gonna try and write the megaupdate, keeping the same rules for now. I'll start writing it tonight, and keep chipping at it for tomorrow as well. Hopefully I finish it tomorrow, or monday/tuesday at the latest.

[Spinach]

I don't think the vote is very relevant to me because Cyrus doesn't fight in the system much anyway. But the last two times an RP made this transition (Fort, Ga Rei) the fights devolved into playground battles of doing whatever felt vaguely justifiable. It easily becomes a battle of who can do the most mental hurdles to reach X outcome with their power and honestly, it results in a lot of GM fiat.

[Airen]

I understand the reasoning behind wanting to transition, hard number systems do slow things down by a lot, so I'll give the boring answer and say I can go with both tbh; would be hypocritical of me not to be ( 0_0)

If necessary I'll stop fence-sitting if a tie breaker is needed

[Katie]

Similarly to Spinach, what my power does and does not work on is similarly GM fiat'd and thus my vote is kinda wonky because either way Rosary's power is subject to whatever you decide. I also feel that the transition from numbers -> freeform makes things feel like they are no longer under your control; you post until the GM decides it's enough and assigns you a consequence. I'm not particularly fond of this experience so this is an Option B from me.

[I3uster]

I'll just keep numbers though I don't even use a combat build so also not that important really.

[arkturus]

While I haven't had enough experience with freeform or the Titan system (not as much as others) I'm also going to vote for option A.

My reasons being that I think an interpretive system would suit Harry's kit better and would feel less restrictive. While the numbers did contribute to the atmosphere of fear and oppression I feel like it was also frustrating as a player because it felt like I lacked any viable options other than to run away or enter a damage race as resources were already quite limited.

There might be issues but I hope that the change will be for the better.

[hero]

a

No argument really. You use a setting that has both human and monster opponents, making it a larger than normal amount of sheets to yellow text and to upgrade as the game goes on. So you'd save a lot of trouble and time which is what really matters here. Put your own health or whatever term you want to use before player preference.

Regarding free form, its all about atmosphere. Make it "people doing their best to survive" instead of "people waving powers to kill some monsters" and youll see how control wont escape your side. Airen and I are permissive because that is our style, that doesn't mean everyone has to be. Apply restrictions to your ff system.


And there is gm fiat in both systems, dont delude yourselves. Its not even good or evil, just a tool there to be used.

[Airen]

You mean choice A right, lol

And yes, GM fiat will always exist in some form

[hero]

I hate my phone

[Airen]

I know that feel

[Spinach]

There's absolutely fiat both ways, I don't think one has none and the other has all fiat. Just that the amount of fiat increases the more the RP goes freeform. GM fiat isn't my boogieman I'm on a mission to fight, I'm just noting the changes of freeform and my personal feelings that result from those changes.

[Bloble]

B

[hero]

Well, can we help come up with a solution to the problem? Because unlike other instances, he's the one bringing up the issue. He feels there is something wrong with it and he has said what it is. We all have our preferences born from experience, and in spite of everything i say, i can see the charm in the yellow text and can support it, but it wont do much to help the GM who works to bring the RP to us.

If we keep the number system... How to make it less taxing that it already is from an unprepared GM point of view? By unprepared i mean that Race does not have all the material needed to carry out a full adventure and must create part of it as the game goes on.

[Erlkonig]

I say option A, anything to make you have to work less to get the actual sheets up and focus on writing plot.

[Vritra]

I'll go with B but i'm not super picky either way.

[Spinach]

Tbh if I had the solution in mind I'd post it. Sorry, am of no use.

[Mormarth]

I'd go with A, personally.

i mean my shenanigans are only going to get more insane, tbh, and i've been musing on the disconnect on cuhrayzee horseshit that i know she's capable of

but yeah, speaking more broadly, hard numbers are easier to do when things are ironed-out ahead of time, Titan's kind of a living system, as are a lot of BL RP's tbqh, dealing with shit that's just going to get more and more over-the-top, and already has a great deal of people pulling silly bullshit, is only going to be more of a pain in the long run, I feel.

so yeah

[Spinach]

Guys I miss

[Frantic Author]

titan

[Snax]

Fine either way but in terms of just fun, no numbers is interesting enough