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    Fate/Zero Material

    "In the battleground, there is no place for hope. What lies there is just cold despair and a sin called victory, built on the pain of the defeated. The world as is, the human nature as always, it is impossible to eliminate the battles. In the end, killing is necessary evil - and if so, it is best to end them in the best efficiency and at the least cost, least time. Call it not foul nor nasty. Justice cannot save the world. It is useless."
    Well, it started out sounding nice, and then wtf bad english incoming. Was missing a lot of spaces after periods.

    Anyways, I was going to wait until I finished everything, but classes start soon so I'll just post what I have now of the Glossary because it doesn't look like I'll even finish this by the end of the year. I'd rather get errors fixed now, when there is less to have made mistakes on, than later.


    Spoilers (duh) and un-fluid English abound.


    Notes in [], excluding the category ones, are mine. () are part of the text.
    As always, plz spinecrush away if errors are found. MY BODY SPINE IS READY

    Irisviel von Einzbern
    Irisviel von Einzbern [Person]
    A homunculus modeled after Justizia Lizleihi.
    Although the Einzbern homunculi have their functions determined during the design process, Irisviel only developed the plan to conceive Illyasviel after she was created. Thus, as a special case, she was allowed to hold multiple “functions different from the plan”. That is, not only did she give birth, but she was also given the role of rearing Illyasviel. Although Justabcheit determined that this method would be more efficient than using a newly-constructed homunculus as a wet nurse, it was still a special case when it came to the Einzberns' standard. Anyhow, the result was that although a homunculus, Irisviel obtained the experiences of raising a child as a “mother” just like a human would, and it produced an effect on her character that even Acht could not predict.
    Even compared to other Einzbern homunculi, there had never been an example of one who had interacted with humans for as long as 9 years, or had such colorful and irregular mental activity. In other words, for the Einzbern, Irisviel was the first to receive the same treatment as a human, and the first to have emotions like a human. Because her physical and mental capabilities originally surpassed those of a human, those mental processes did not fail her after her exceptional growth, and she finally possessed self-awareness and emotions equal to those of a normal human.
    Even so, compared with the inherent knowledge and reason, the crystallization of the Einzbern's wisdom accumulated over millennia, that comes with the format of homunculus, her emotions and human experiences have only accumulated over a mere 9 years, which results in her having both the elegance of an upper-class lady and the innocent nature of a child, making her a troublesome princess.
    Some additional information: during the time when Zero’s plot was being set, apparently the setup of Angra Mainyu in Hollow wasn't well-known yet. How in the world the author came up with "that ending", even for us, couldn't be scarier.

    Admirable Tactics
    Admirable Tactics [Other]
    Set during World War II, you operate as a superhero in the war between the Axis and the Allies in the fourth installment of this war game series. The subtitle is “The Melancholy of Doctor Porsche”.
    In terms of the rules and difficulty, it already hit a dead end, so the expansion added more warring countries, stages and maps. With Triebflügel and Vergeltungswaffe 3 [V-3 Cannon], as well as clones of the President and other distinguished figures as added units, this melting pot of chaos has already surpassed the scope of a mere war game, and boasts of changes to a hard-to-describe game balance. Among a certain group of maniacs, it has quite some popularity.

    Illyasviel von Einzbern
    Illyasviel von Einzbern [Person]
    The daughter of Irisviel and Kiritsugu, and one of the heroines of the future Fifth Holy Grail War – this isn’t a lie! Illya’s route exists in everyone’s hearts!
    The original story of Fate had events hinting at this, but in Zero her shocking age issue is very quickly revealed.
    Incidentally, the reason Saber didn’t speak her feelings during the Fifth War was because she had never asked Iri about her daughter’s name, and Illya’s appearance seemed far too young for her to be Iri’s daughter (after 10 years, the child that used to sit on Kiritsugu’s shoulders should already have developed a voluptuous body, that was the reasoning). So, she viewed Illya as an Einzbern homunculus completely unrelated to Iri – it’s definitely not a lame excuse.

    Vimana
    Vimana [Noble Phantasm]
    The King’s soul resides in golden armor. Vimana was flown in the sky for the first time in the third volume – His Majesty the King of Heroes’ mobile air weapon. It uses solar energy, produced from a solar crystal that burns mercury as fuel, to move – a high-tech Indian Noble Phantasm that would make even Area 51 pale-faced. Even though in ancient Indian mythology, it also had weapons ranging from ancient machine guns to ancient nuclear warheads, these surely have already been gathered in the treasury of the King of Heroes.

    Emiya Norikata
    Emiya Norikata [Person]
    Kiritsugu’s father. His family thaumaturgy involved time manipulation inside the body or possibly small cause-and-effect, and he was a genius who in only the fourth generation, a relatively shallow generation, rose to the rank of gaining a Sealing Designation.
    Spent more than 20 years hiding from the pursuit of the Magic Association, and finally hid himself on a small southern island. Though Norikata’s wife died at the hands of the Magic Association’s hunters, Kiritsugu, who had just been born at the time, has no memory of the incident.
    Accelerating or slowing the flow of time inside a Reality Marble free from the world’s interference is the thaumaturgy of the Emiya family. But after investigating it thoroughly, Norikata found that, in a Bounded Field that was minimized until resistance was almost zero, the flow of time could be accelerated without limit, and reaching the Root would be possible, right before observing the universe’s end. Although the theory itself was very promising, finishing the experiment would still require several hundreds of years. In order to resolve the issue of life span, he decided to explore the methods of becoming a Dead Apostle.
    The tragedy that arose as a result was the story narrated at the beginning of Volume 4 of Zero.

    Glock
    Glock [Weapon]
    The sidearm that Hisau Maiya carries with her. Although it doesn’t have a model number, in the author’s head it is surely Model 19.
    It’s hard to imagine that Kiritsugu prepared this gun for her, so most likely Maiya picked it herself.

    Kotone
    Kotone [Person]
    Rin’s classmate, who was kidnapped by Gilles and Uryuu, umm…a girl with a muddled fate.
    During the first draft, the name “Satsuki” was picked without thinking, the author forgot about Sacchin’s real name up until the original author’s punishment – he even forgot the fact that Sacchin had a real name.
    Yumizuka Satsuki fans all over the world, we must respectfully apologize.
    Kinoko: “Fujibuchi [it’s supposed to be Urobuchi, is there a reference I’m missing?], be a little more considerate…”
    Gen: “If she (the target of the teasing) is not called Satsuki, she’s not moe.”
    Somehow this conversation happened but didn’t happen.

    Shirley
    Shirley [Person]
    A resident of Alimago Island, the island that Emiya Norikata chose to take refuge on. She did not attend even elementary school, and only relied on the teachings of the Christian priest. But even this inferior education environment stimulated her ample intellectual curiosity, and through correspondence courses she obtained a Master’s degree at age 13. This talent was recognized by Norikata, and he hired her as his assistant and gave her responsibility of various tasks of the Emiya father and son’s life on Alimago island.
    She did not really receive Norikata’s teachings or become his disciple, for she was only taught the most basic of basics. It might have been better had Norikata not concealed the identity of magic when he came into contact with the girl, but even at that level, Shirley’s desire for knowledge allowed her to absorb Norikata’s words at an astonishing pace, and he himself had great expectations of her talent. However, just as the proverb “curiosity killed the cat” says, at the end this outstanding curiosity brought about a tragedy.
    The first love of the not-yet-adolescent Kiritsugu. The kendo girl who he came across in his later years seemed to somehow have Shirley’s image, so he spoiled her a bit more than necessary.

    Chibi Assassin
    Chibi Assassin [Other]
    A plot in the 2nd or 3rd volume that went unused. This conceived character was one among the hundred-faced Hassans, an unfortunate loli that would lighten up the story. A young girl lacking conversational skills, memories, and the awareness that she was a part of Hassan Sabbah. That personality of this past Hassan would surface when she was captured by the enemy in order to protect her secret. When Rider and Waver attacked Gilles’ workshop, she alone separated herself from the Hassans who were beheaded, leading Waver to mistakenly think “This is one of the children who Ryuunosuke kidnapped, and who fell victim to memory loss” and take her under his wing. Although Iskandar knew that she was a Servant, because of Waver’s chivalry allowed the Mackenzies to take in yet another false household member. In the third volume, because Kirei (who knew of her existence) used his command spell, she regained her memories as Hassan, and went through a dramatic farewell tragedy. Waver again climbed another step on the path to becoming an adult…although it was conceived like this, it would make people even more confused about who was Zero’s main protagonist! Because of this judgment it was cut, leaving only the already-written workshop raiding scene.

    Tohsaka Sakura
    Tohsaka Sakura [Person]
    When she first appeared in the story of Zero, she was already Matou Sakura, but it’s hard to get an opportunity to use this name. With this name she really seems like a brave and fierce Tooyama Sakura… [which, I believe, is a reference to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C5%8Dyama_no_Kin-san]
    Although she only appeared twice (during the prologue and in the middle), once you think about it, a~~~ll that time she was suffering in a worm hell that violates child pornography laws. In Zero, this girl’s misery index may actually have been the highest. When the author was in the middle of writing, and when Character Material published young Sakura’s cute appearance, thinking that “aah, right now I’m writing about a world that does its best to brutally mistreat this kind of girl” was a huge mental burden. You’re terrible, Takeuchi-san! Let’s torment her more!
    In the scene with her and Kariya’s death, the first draft of the plot was really too inhumane. After the author of the original work scolded him with “What color is your blood, anyways!?” it became one of the few scenes that the author stopped. So in the end, Sakura’s monologue was very mild and calm. …It was like that. No, really.

    Tohsaka Rin
    Tohsaka Rin [Person]
    The eldest daughter of Tohsaka Tokiomi. The younger years of one of the heroines of Fate.
    10 years ago, Rin’s understanding of the Holy Grail War was about equal to that of Shirou’s during the Fifth War. That is, it seemed like she understood but she really did not.
    In the eyes of young Rin, her father Tokiomi was a great magus who must be respected and loved, but as for the coldheartedness that accompanied the ideal, that was a negative aspect of his personality that she failed to understand.
    If Tokiomi had survived until the time when Rin could have really understood her father’s personality, it would certainly have deeply affected the development of her own personality. Whether she would oppose that inhumanity and leave the path of thaumaturgy, or whether she would become a “perfect and coldhearted” witch like her father – no matter which one, this parallel world, for Rin, would certainly be one far away from happiness.

    Matou Byakuya
    Matou Byakuya [Person]
    The father of Matou Shinji, our glorious wakame.
    As a magus, he was inferior to his little brother Kariya, but because Kariya refused to continue learning magecraft and ran away, he had no choice but to become the next Matou family head.
    But for Byakuya that was not necessarily a disaster, as Zouken had long ago given up on Byakuya and had taught him barely anything, and at most let him take charge of low-importance, miscellaneous tasks. Instead, the matter of succession was completely placed onto his adoptive daughter, Sakura.
    Regardless of the fact that he was head in name only, or of his hatred towards magecraft, the Matou assets as a trade for a comfortable and carefree life was not too bad of a deal – or so Byakuya thought, as in the end he suffered much stress, and spent his days drinking to run from it.
    During the fourth volume, he finally made his appearance & exited in a flash. Originally, the scene should have ended with “Kiritsugu visited the Matou house while searching for Irisviel, but it was useless.”. But because the author thought that “there isn’t enough violence today”, Byakuya, who would never have appeared in the first place, was sacrificed by going on stage. What a sorrow. [isn’t it sad byakuya ;_; ]

    Mercedes-Benz 300SL
    Mercedes-Benz 300SL [Other]
    A toy that Kiritsugu bought for his wife to educate her about modern science. Although the choice was a bit classical in terms of education, part of the reason was Irisviel’s own taste. Since it was Kiritsugu’s custom model, you would expect it to have options like machine guns or missiles or passenger-seat ejection or a gasoline atomizer, but there probably aren’t any.
    After the Fourth War ended it was stored in the Einzbern mansion situated in the forests near the outskirts of Fuyuki, and happily became Illya’s toy. Incidentally, it is famous for being Japan’s Ishihara Yujiro’s favorite car.




    My favorite is Byakuya's, and maybe Maiya's which isn't done yet.
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    So Shinji got orphaned on a whim by Urobuchi? XD
    Thanks for the translation Lianru.


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    Byakuya isn't dead at the end of Zero....

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    Why does everyone think he died from being shot in the hand.

    It's not a vital organ, it's a hand.

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    Shirley
    ...ample intellectual curiosity...
    That's not the only part of her that's ample

    Dohohohoho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    Byakuya isn't dead at the end of Zero....
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    Why does everyone think he died from being shot in the hand.

    It's not a vital organ, it's a hand.
    Oh, my mistake, I didn't pay enough attention while I was watching the anime.


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    I think the phrase Byakuya 'was sacrificed' is what's misleading everyone.

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    Didn't pay attention while playing FSN either I take it :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    Byakuya isn't dead at the end of Zero....
    Clearly it's a metaphorical sacrifice. A sacrifice to the god of senseless, non-lethal violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Clearly it's a metaphorical sacrifice. A sacrifice to the god of senseless, non-lethal violence.
    Meh, the fucker deserves a hell of a lot worse....

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    I have strong feelings about a character who appeared on one page!

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    it would make people even more confused about who was Zero’s main protagonist! Because of this judgment it was cut, leaving only the already-written workshop raiding scene.
    What? Lolisin was cut so dead eyes man could get more spotlight? WHAT?

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    Some additional information: during the time when Zero’s plot was being set, apparently the setup of Angra Mainyu in Hollow wasn't well-known yet. How in the world the author came up with "that ending", even for us, couldn't be scarier.
    What
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    It's Gen. It's not scary, it's expected.

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    But then it turned out to be canonical by accident. That's the scary part.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    What
    I guess Gen magicked up that Avenger "0+1=1" stuff without being privy to Hollow Ataraxia plot secrets yet.

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    Clearly, immersing himself in excessive grimdark has turned Gen into a warlock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    I have strong feelings about a character who appeared on one page!
    He was responsible for Sakura's abuse (at least partially), that's easily enough reason to hate him....

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    Well, Shinji doesn't like him, so I guess I don't like him either :P

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    But he is practically an older clone of Shinji.

    Well, barring the alcoholism.

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