Fate/Stay Night [Realta Nua] PC version Mirror Moon TL insertion project

[justinefremlouw]

I do understand that we need to merge files from each route's folder for the merge patch although it's true that I don't know which files needs to be merged and whatnot. It's true that if I'm to make an installer for the merge patch, I would need all the details on which file gets copied/merged where. I think this is pretty obvious as I haven't worked on the patch at all.

Again though, copying or overwriting files aren't exactly hard to do if u know which files u want where...unless there's some voodoo magic involved in merging the three routes

[XerBlade]

Would it be possible to just point something in the merge patch to the locations of all 3 routes and use the game files that are already in each folder? Well, actually, I know it would be, but... you know what, rhetorical question that was entirely thrown out to head off anyone else who might be thinking it, all right?

Anyway, that is an option that could be considered, just note the pros would be reduced file size and overhead for the installer, but the biggest con would obviously be the patch would be more complex to a not-insignificant degree to the point where the pros probably wouldn't be worth all the headaches, and there wouldn't really be any meaningful advantage for the end result, which is after the installer is finished.

A midpoint which, well, is pretty much what you'd HAVE to do to make any of this reasonably possible [and reasonably reasonable] would be for the installer to use a script to copy/move all the game files from all 3 routes into one place that the merged game can use. Ideally you'd want to extract the files from the archives and build new composite archives with them (similar-ish to how mirror moon's voice patch for the original works, but, as with that case, this would make for some pretty long install times), with the alternative being renaming/throwing in subfolders and modifying the relevant files that point to things to figure out how everything works (which has so many potential issues I don't even care to list them).

[Jacktheinfinite101]

There's also a few aesthetics that would be more difficult to work in this format. For example. The title on the window, if you'd want to remove the route name and just call it Fate/Stay Night [Realta Nua], the problem would be that the portion of the config file that lists that is called before patches in the save folder are checked for patches. So to get around this, we need the modified config in the game folder in a folder titled patch.xp3 (which is still supported, just not patch2, patch3, etc.).

[Jacktheinfinite101]

it's true that I don't know which files needs to be merged and whatnot. It's true that if I'm to make an installer for the merge patch, I would need all the details on which file gets copied/merged where. I think this is pretty obvious as I haven't worked on the patch at all.

We're a little ways away from that but when the time comes I'll walk you through the pipeline.

[Quibi]

I've already a basic idea of how the installer should work. I'll detail it later once I get home.

[SurferDude]

In the mean time, how's the latest patch testing going ?
Release any time soon ?

[NM64]

In the mean time, how's the latest patch testing going ?

Sorry, in-depth OP video testing did not commence yet. Yesterday wasn't a good time but later today (3-4 hours from now) looks good.

[black1blade]

How much was it for download on internet?

[NM64]

I have some preliminary results. They're all the same as or similar to pre-existing issues, so I'll just cheat and copy & paste most of the text from my old bug-report post.


First, in the Extra menu, when not playing a video "In Frame", you cannot stop the video by clicking in the letter-box/pillar-box "black bar" area - this occurs when running the VN in fullscreen as well.


Second, this one now occurs in both fullscreen and windowed:

windowed - the dreaded fat Saber

4:3 - the dreaded fat Saber

16:9 - the dreaded fat Saber

Thirdly this one occurs only in windowed and also only occurs if the video resolution is higher than or equal to your desktop resolution - note that this occurs both during the story and on the Extra menu, but it does not occur with the 2004 OPs:

4:3 - Improper video framing (letter-boxing)

16:9 - Improper video framing (cropped)

[Jacktheinfinite101]

You know, I never did get what you were trying to convey before with the last report, I just fgured it out. Yeah basically it stretches to the requested resolution no matter what, so for example. I have a 1366x768 screen res, so the Fate Vita OP, which is 1080p, still outputs at 1080p, but since my resolution is lower it basically goes off screen to depict it.

At that point the fix is relatively simple, just use fullscreen mode.

[NM64]

Well other than that stuff I didn't run into anything other bugs or the like. Now that was preliminary as in I only tested on my main PC, but I did test every type of video playback with the following resolutions:

800x600 @ fullscreen (4:3)
1152x864 @ windowed (4:3)
1280x704 (wider than 16:9)
1368x1096 (taller than 4:3 & 5:4)
1928x1100 (narrower than 16:9)

[XerBlade]

You know, I never did get what you were trying to convey before with the last report, I just fgured it out. Yeah basically it stretches to the requested resolution no matter what, so for example. I have a 1366x768 screen res, so the Fate Vita OP, which is 1080p, still outputs at 1080p, but since my resolution is lower it basically goes off screen to depict it.

At that point the fix is relatively simple, just use fullscreen mode.

I should probably point out that, as NM actually already said but it was so fleeting you may have overlooked it (no one ever pays attention to the "or equal to" part of inequalities...), that also applies to screens that have the same resolution as the video. For example, if I have my monitor set to 1080p and try to run the Fate Vita OP in windowed mode, part of the video still overflows past the edge of the display, because the window frame uses pixels.

[NM64]

I have now edited in emphesis.


EDIT: Now that I think of it, I totally should put in some 16:10 screenshots just to remind people that 16:9 isn't everything since I get the impression that people are just dismissing the 4:3 as a case of "nobody uses that anymore" rather than it just being an example of a taller-than 16:9 ratio.

Example: Did you know Monoprice is coming out with a 30" 2560x1600 (16:10) 120hz IPS monitor?

[XerBlade]

By the way, a possible work around for the "or equal to" part, which will surely impact a fair amount of users as the average monitor is currently 1080p: have it switch to a chromeless window when the video player starts. That way there is nothing taking up screen real estate outside of the video itself.

[Jacktheinfinite101]

I'm guessing NM just deleted a post considering I clicked next page and landed on the same page.

[XerBlade]

I'm guessing NM just deleted a post considering I clicked next page and landed on the same page.

There are all sorts of reasons that could've happened. These boards are weird.

[NM64]

I deleted my post and moved it to an edit of my previous post since I didn't feel that it was worthy of its own post.

Besides, I wanted more focus to be put on XerBlade's chromeless idea. In fact, I'll quote it here:

have it switch to a chromeless window when the video player starts.

I like this idea and it should totally be implemented.

[Jacktheinfinite101]

I am here to report SUCCESS! I gave the patch to my test subject and it worked perfecty. We did it, NO MORE EACESSVIOLATIONS!


Everyone praise CO2 for the Jesus he is for pulling this off.

[XerBlade]

CO2, bless your soul, you've saved all of Heaven's Feel!
And to thank you for what you've done, we are going to give you a very special gift.
For saving the entire universe from the EAccessViolations, we give you this: Keanu Reeves' statue.
Congratulations.

[Nihilm]

At that point the fix is relatively simple, just use fullscreen mode.

Fullscreen nazis