Fate/Stay Night [Realta Nua] PC version Mirror Moon TL insertion project

**Rokudaime** · February 6th, 2015, 10:15 PM

GAO!

**SINIB** · February 6th, 2015, 10:23 PM

And I'm now in tiger mode as well. Thanks for the tip!

**ニサンカタンソ** · February 9th, 2015, 03:03 AM

I was using the code from Kirikiri Z, and the developer added a "Media Foundation"-based movie player, which is only available on Vista onwards. I'll see if I can remove it without changing too much.

Edit:
Okay this one should be compatible with XP:
krmovie-lav20150209.zip

**NM64** · February 9th, 2015, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by ニサンカタンソ

Okay this one should be compatible with XP:
krmovie-lav20150209.zip

Nope. Here's the according log text

Log text

**Jacktheinfinite101** · February 9th, 2015, 11:21 PM

Did you actually stick it in the patch or did you just move it to your game folder?

**NM64** · February 10th, 2015, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101

Did you actually stick it in the patch or did you just move it to your game folder?

...no comment. <_<;

**Jacktheinfinite101** · February 10th, 2015, 12:45 AM

Hang on, I'll get together a test patch.

**NM64** · February 10th, 2015, 10:30 PM

Yep, that worked. I forgot how optimized LAVFilters' h.264 decoder was, the 720p PS2 OPs were playing perfectly on the XP PC's measly Celeron M @ 1.5GHz!

However, something odd did happen. The first things I tested was the Extra -> Movie menu, and that worked perfectly in all modes. I then tried the PS2 Fate OP after the prolouge and that worked as well in both fullscreen and windowed. After that I tested the Vita Fate OP in fullscreen after Day 3 and it gave me an EAccessError, but when I tried it again in windowed it worked fine, and it also worked fine when I tested again in fullscreen...so I don't know.

Here's the error log text anyway:

Error log text

**ニサンカタンソ** · February 11th, 2015, 01:59 AM

Looks like the error that happens when the file in the xp3 is compressed.
If it is, you might be able to reproduce the error if you start that movie in the movie menu a lot of times.

**Jacktheinfinite101** · February 11th, 2015, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by ニサンカタンソ

compressed.

*whacks own head* Dammit. That's right. Sorry, I keep using Kikiriki to create xp3 files out of habbit. I'll make sure the release version is made from the dev tools.

**NM64** · February 11th, 2015, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by ニサンカタンソ

Looks like the error that happens when the file in the xp3 is compressed.
If it is, you might be able to reproduce the error if you start that movie in the movie menu a lot of times.

Let me guess, the CPU couldn't decompress the necessary data fast enough?

Also, considering that the largest files are already in some sort of compressed format, I don't think using a compressed XP3 archive would be much of any useful benefit anyway.

**ニサンカタンソ** · February 11th, 2015, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Nintendo Maniac 64

Let me guess, the CPU couldn't decompress the necessary data fast enough?

I investigated this previously, but I'll give a more detailed explanation.

It's because the computer couldn't allocate enough memory for the decompression. Even though you have plenty spare (it happens when I have 16GB RAM, but 32-bit processes are limited to 2GB), it's because the memory is fragmented due to many things being allocated and deallocated.

The Kirikiri decompression uses two large contiguous pieces of memory: one for the compressed file and one for the uncompressed file. This could be approximately halved (assuming compressed and decompressed sizes are about equal) by making it read directly from the file instead of loading the whole thing into memory. The other large piece of memory (for the decompressed file) can be reduced by writing to a temporary file on disk, but hard drives are slow.

The reason the whole file needs to be decompressed is that the compressed file can only be read linearly. If you just want to read a part near the end, you will have to go through the whole file first. One way to deal with this is to build an index for the compressed file so you can load a chunk rather than the whole thing. Kirikiri has code that supports decoding files with indexes, but there's no code to build the index in the way we want for large files. However, since the movie file only needs to be read linearly, another solution is to decompress on the fly, but you will have to write your own code for that.

Since large files are usually compressed to start with (movies, music, images), there isn't much of a use-case for fixing this limitation of Kirikiri. This problem occurs for our 150MB Vita OP, but it's rare for music and images to get that large. You can specify which files to keep uncompressed in the "Kirikiri releaser" program, so I guess this problem was known at one point. This is the simplest solution, and it meets our needs and doesn't require building our own packer or decompresser or even changing one line of code. Even though there exists a pure optimisation that doesn't have any side-effects (changing it so that it doesn't load the compressed file into memory), it is probably not useful because 1) the memory is freed immediately after it finishes decompression, 2) it is unlikely that large files need to use XP3 compression and 3) it doesn't solve the problem fully, only reduces the chance of it occurring (because it still allocates memory for the whole uncompressed file).

**NM64** · February 11th, 2015, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by ニサンカタンソ

I investigated this previously, but I'll give a more detailed explanation.

It's because the computer couldn't allocate enough memory for the decompression. Even though you have plenty spare (it happens when I have 16GB RAM, but 32-bit processes are limited to 2GB), it's because the memory is fragmented due to many things being allocated and deallocated.

The Kirikiri decompression uses two large contiguous pieces of memory: one for the compressed file and one for the uncompressed file. This could be approximately halved (assuming compressed and decompressed sizes are about equal) by making it read directly from the file instead of loading the whole thing into memory. The other large piece of memory (for the decompressed file) can be reduced by writing to a temporary file on disk, but hard drives are slow.

Ahhh, good to know! Yeah, this XP laptop has quite the slow hard drive, though I did actually disable the pagefile *gasp* in an attempt to use the physical RAM more and not said slow hard drive.

Originally Posted by ニサンカタンソ

The reason the whole file needs to be decompressed is that the compressed file can only be read linearly.

Ah, that. I'm actually already familiar with that issue, particularly from byuu's stance on supporting compressed archives in emulators.

**Gilgamesh_maximaster** · February 15th, 2015, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101

Full release is here. Thank you to everyone who has worked so hard to help bring us to this point. You are all wonderful and I'm glad to have had your help.

https://mega.co.nz/#!kgpDWBDC!_AauU3...sGieK1mDHM9gI4

For those who want Koto's version: http://realtapatch.tumblr.com/

Credits

FAQ

I reinstaled my Fate/Stay Night pc game version, installed the version of mirror moon, I follow all the instructions
and now playing from the beginning I have saved data, where I completed the game, but I'm playing from zero now
this patch is working. when appers the new menu? I ended the prologue and nothing yet this is adde after the third Day
of Shirou? in the video show Rin summoning Archer but in the game i saw this in first person :/ maybe a did somethig
wrong

This patch works only in realta nua Pc version or can be used in F/SN original version?

**Quibi** · February 15th, 2015, 07:20 PM

It only works for the Realta Nua PC version (not the original).
And for the menu to appear you need to keep on playing :P

**XerBlade** · February 15th, 2015, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh_maximaster

I reinstaled my Fate/Stay Night pc game version, installed the version of mirror moon, I follow all the instructions
and now playing from the beginning I have saved data, where I completed the game, but I'm playing from zero now
this patch is working. when appers the new menu? I ended the prologue and nothing yet this is adde after the third Day
of Shirou? in the video show Rin summoning Archer but in the game i saw this in first person :/ maybe a did somethig
wrong

This patch works only in realta nua Pc version or can be used in F/SN original version?

Yeah, all of that is because you're playing the original version and not Realta Nua.

**Karharot** · February 15th, 2015, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh_maximaster

I reinstaled my Fate/Stay Night pc game version, installed the version of mirror moon, I follow all the instructions
and now playing from the beginning I have saved data, where I completed the game, but I'm playing from zero now
this patch is working. when appers the new menu? I ended the prologue and nothing yet this is adde after the third Day
of Shirou? in the video show Rin summoning Archer but in the game i saw this in first person :/ maybe a did somethig
wrong

This patch works only in realta nua Pc version or can be used in F/SN original version?

Carefully read the FAQ of the post you quoted, the answers you seek are there.

Anyway, cutting to the chase - you need to procure the F/SN Realta Nua PC version of the game this patch is meant for, only then you can use it.

**SkitZoFrenic** · February 16th, 2015, 03:49 AM

Well, finished doing my replay of Fate (Saber Route) last night...wanted it to be fresh in my memory before doing LE.

Spoiler:

I started playing Fate RN almost 3 months ago...and now I'm finally done with all the routes. To be perfectly honest, I didn't expect that this game would impact me nearly as much as it did. Even though this game may have a few minor flaws, I truly consider this to be a masterpiece. The voice acting, the music, the characters, the humor, the awesome battles...and the complete immersion in the storytelling. I can't thank you guys enough for providing the translation for this game. THANK YOU SO MUCH for allowing me to experience something as amazing as Fate!

**SeiKeo** · February 16th, 2015, 11:03 AM

Last Episode comes after HF, not Fate.

**Mcjon01** · February 16th, 2015, 11:07 AM

HF comes after Fate.

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