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    That would be the point I'm trying to make.

    Maybe magical hybrid would work?
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Plus demons and devils really are the same thing, so why shouldn't I use synonyms? Demon = any distortion in nature. The Church just has specific terms for them based on whether they're related to humans or not.

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    Mixed breeds can be called Distortion-Fucker Offspring then, for all it matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Plus demons and devils really are the same thing, so why shouldn't I use synonyms? Demon = any distortion in nature. The Church just has specific terms for them based on whether they're related to humans or not.
    I don't think oni are actually distortions in nature so much as they just don't fit into the Church worldview at which point you may as well call vampires, magi, and Divine Spirits demons as well.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    I don't think oni are actually distortions in nature
    Red Demon God says they are. Explicitly.

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    Also, if I were to put out a wild guess, I'd say that oni would be considered true devils under the Church's terminology. Maybe.
    Last edited by Mcjon01; April 16th, 2014 at 10:24 AM.

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    But one is a Phantasmal race akin to elementals and the other is made up of hypothetical elements that might not even exist. I just don't really see how they're similar at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuyuki
    魔獣 - Majuu
    A general term for those animals that do not belong to any normal species heirarchy. As is the case with creatures of fantasy in general, their bodies have to be at least possible in an organic sense.
    The older they are, the stronger. Get past a certain age and they advance up in the ranks.
    Broken down into four categories: monstrous beasts, mythical beasts, holy beasts, and divine beasts (both holy and divine may actually be the same). The only ones that can be used as familiars are the monstrous-type.
    The majority of monsters are chimeras and while there are still monsters living in uncivilized lands, mythical beasts and those of higher rank have shifted outside of the (probably perceptual) world because of those very characteristics.
    Mythical level creatures can't be harmed by the mere likes of common thaumaturgy. Even an Excalibur cloaked in an Invisible Air (from a weakened Saber) can't normally break through the dragon-level type of defense put up by Rider's pegasus.
    Also includes oni and dragon types.
    Quote Originally Posted by fuyuki
    悪魔 - akuma
    AKA, incarnated pandemonium or true demon.
    NOT one of the phantasm races, but passive entities whose materialized forms are not biologically possible.
    McJon01, please be explaining. Is arai just wrong here?
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
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    You did it. I said it was a wild guess but you took it seriously anyway. That was just based entirely on the hard to understand distinctions the Church is making between 悪魔 and 真性悪魔, and vaguely similar language about 鬼 being pure 魔 from the very start.

    What I know for sure:
    There are many different kinds of 魔.
    鬼 are 魔.
    鬼 are 魔獣 are 幻想種.
    悪魔 seems like something used by the Church, or at least used mostly in reference to the Western conception of good/evil and angels/devils, while 魔 seems like a more general worldwide concept.
    Last edited by Mcjon01; April 16th, 2014 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post

    I thought I remember it dieing of some sort of mysterious natural cause. Not that I have any idea how that would work.
    Originally created by felling a miraculous beast said to consume souls, then using its horn as a key.
    It fell.

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    Clearly you should just use Majin and Akuma.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It fell.
    It's been so long since I read kagetsu tohya but I seem to remember her actually meeting the unicorn as it was dieing. Maybe Nasu unicorns are super orthodox and you can actually easily kill one using a pure maiden as bait.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    You did it. I said it was a wild guess but you took it seriously anyway. That was just based entirely on the hard to understand distinctions the Church is making between 悪魔 and 真性悪魔, and vaguely similar language about 鬼 being pure 魔 from the very start.

    What I know for sure:
    There are many different kinds of 魔.
    鬼 are 魔.
    鬼 are 魔獣 are 幻想種.
    悪魔 seems like something used by the Church, or at least used mostly in reference to the Western conception of good/evil and angels/devils, while 魔 seems like a more general worldwide concept.
    This made me realise.
    If Demons are truly alien beings from different world and Oni is a type of Demon... Does it mean that Hybrids are basically Nasu's equivalent to Deep Ones/Human hybrids from Lovercraftian role?

    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    It's been so long since I read kagetsu tohya but I seem to remember her actually meeting the unicorn as it was dieing. Maybe Nasu unicorns are super orthodox and you can actually easily kill one using a pure maiden as bait.
    Probably this. Also, are we positive that Holy Beast = Divine Beast?

    Anyway, great work McJon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    Nasu isn't right about his own things
    This is the BL fallback for when you lose an argument decisively. You're better than this my friend.

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    akiha's power probably exceeds even a rampaging arcueid.



    good frikken LORD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach View Post
    This is the BL fallback for when you lose an argument decisively. You're better than this my friend.
    They weren't even particularly good points seeing as how the root being mentioned once or one character being a former magus that never used magic once in the story, doesn't mean that those things have nothing to do with Tsukihime, which is about vampires and oni, not magi and metaphysics.

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    And also they are literally just ads for KnK and FSN, so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    akiha's power probably exceeds even a rampaging arcueid.



    good frikken LORD
    Only if she inverts, and that's probably 30% (or weaker) Arc it's talking about.


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    ...mcjon, am I somehow misreading this that akiha during kohaku's route was probably stronger then arcueid?


    cause. um.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    It's been so long since I read kagetsu tohya but I seem to remember her actually meeting the unicorn as it was dieing. Maybe Nasu unicorns are super orthodox and you can actually easily kill one using a pure maiden as bait.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLr0R_54TBk @2:16

    It died before Nanako was sacrificed to fuse with the nature spirit that the horn became. Doesn't say why or how it bought it. So, it could still be in line with what You posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockxas View Post
    Only if she inverts,
    and IIRC she counts as having synchronized having attacked kohaku. the point stands.

    and that's probably 30% (or weaker) Arc it's talking about.
    so I assume, that still places current, not theoretically future level, current Akiha sympathed (sure, we can use that word, why not.) with kohaku as 4 frikken servants level power or thereabouts and I have to be misunderstanding this somehow cause wut.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    Eh, maybe Nasu was half asleep when he wrote that. Or maybe Inverted+Synchronized Red Lord Origami, which can engulf and plunder a whole school, is actually really powerful.


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