Star Wars General Thread - Sequel Trilogy, All EU is now Non-Canon, etc.

[Marmadillo]

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[Luke being the best thing in the movie kinda answers that question doesn't it?]

Spoiler:

yeah, well, unfortunately the material he had was super lazy up to the last part

[SeiKeo]

Rly bad except the dude from girls is doing a good job as protag, why does the camera keep going to his li tho

[Strife ❤️]

Spoiler:

[why didn't they reedit the film so leia died when the bridge blew up]

[Mcjon01]

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[Because they thought preserving her last performance in its entirety was a better sendoff]

[Strife ❤️]

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons but I just dislike that scene in general.

[LJ3]

We’re probably gonna get a timeskip

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Timeskips are normal, this was abnormal for "literally five minutes ago the previous movie happened..."

[LJ3]

Yeah, which is why I would not be surprised

Spoiler:

they have a decade or two timeskip so new Force using slave boy becames the new generation.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Nah,

Spoiler:

That's just gonna be like, a Korra sort of thing, SUDDENLY AIRBENDERS

Which honestly I thought they were gonna do in the previous movie but okay.

[SpoonyViking]

I am surprised by how much I liked it. It's definitely MUCH better than "The Force Awakens".
That said, killing off

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[Snoke]

was stupid.

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[The best part is everything that isn’t the utterly pointless Finn/Rose stuff]

It was... ...mostly pointless from the point of view of the plot, but it actually did tie back to the movie's overall theme.

[Phil12]

That might be the funniest mistag I've seen. Also, fix your spoiler tag

[SpoonyViking]

Damn it! Sorry about that.

[ballinamon]

I like it, yeah the story was about all over the place, but I like it

Spoiler:

lol Snoke, when he degrade to generic villain I was waiting for him to die.
At the half of the movie I freaked out, I thinked that they would take the siblings route again. But I'm glad that it wasn't like that. But if is not that, was is the deal? shipping?

[aldeayeah]

Spoiler:

[I wish it were. As a villain motivation, "I really want to fuck Rey" sounds way more grounded than "OUT WITH THE OLD LET'S FUCKING SET THE WORLD ON FIRE"]

[I'm pretty sure the Snoke thing was supposed to be climactic but I found it ridiculous. The imperial guard fight was cool but the story point itself was delivered horribly.]

[Same thing with the final thing with Kylo and Luke. The duel itself is cool, the problem is that to me, it's impossible to see the First Order as anything but a bunch of clowns and Kylo as anything other than a petulant child.]

[Snoke's criticism of Kylo in the beginning is both totally on point, and still true as of the film's ending.]

[Don't even get me started on Phasma the non-character. The fact that she was highlighted in the trailer was so very cynical.]

[I've been disappointed in SW movies before, but this is the first time I storm out of the theater in anger at the start of the ending credits.]

[I think the scriptwriters shot themselves in the foot by setting the film in the literal three days following the end of TFA.
The "classic" Lucasfilms epics like OT and Indy have have always been distinctively structured as a succession of largely independent set pieces. TLJ clumsily weaves a bunch of not very good story threads and the result is a formless, tiring, jumble.]

[Also, I was not in the Rey=Mary Sue camp before this movie, but I'm starting to change my mind. I think the turning point was Yoda's "she already knows all that shit" speech.]

[The humor bits were mostly good, although again, the First Order being nothing but a bunch of clowns really undermines them as antagonists.]

RAAAAAH NERD RAGE

[Asunder]

Saw it with my family and like it, didn't expect some of those twists.

Spoiler:

Matt the Radar Technician was right all along.

[SpoonyViking]

Lots of things

I agree with you on basically all points, but I will say that I think Ren's portrayal (both in the last one and this one) is a deliberate decision, not clumsy writing - unlike, say, the portrayal of the New Order. ETA: Not that that's necessarily a good thing, of course. He's definitely no Vader, for sure, much like Snoke is no Palpatine.
I think the main problem this movie had was being a follow-up to "The Force Awakens" and its many, many terrible decisions from a storytelling viewpoint.

Spoiler:

[Also, I was not in the Rey=Mary Sue camp before this movie, but I'm starting to change my mind. I think the turning point was Yoda's "she already knows all that shit" speech.]

Spoiler:

Yoda meant that literally. Rey took the Jedi texts with her before Luke tried to set the tree on fire.
The director screwed the pooch by not focusing on them at the Falcon for more than half a second, though.

[4score7years]

It was... ...mostly pointless from the point of view of the plot, but it actually did tie back to the movie's overall theme.

Ok but

1. Did it have to tie into the overall theme in such a pointless way
2. Did it have to be so much of the movie


Having said that, I thought about it for a while and concluded that I actually did like this movie.

[SpoonyViking]

Oh, definitely not on both accounts.

[Marmadillo]

My 10 cents
- I would've liked it more if it wasn't a Star Wars episode. Which is paradoxical, because a lot of its story is meta on SW.
- The casino sequence despite being a side-plot is still an integral part of the story. Except its mostly twitter politics bullshit.
- I did not like Luke's character arc, it was predictable and lazy. And while I do appreciate the point the movie was making, I also thought it did not give him justice in context of the original trilogy. Which is, again, a paradox of sort.
- Leia's that scene just made me imagine another popular John Williams piece.
- I like Ren more now, and, hell, Reylo is okay as far as i'm concerned.
- finn who?
- pls someone assign general Hugs to paperwork
- who decided to give Dern the old lady hair coloring?
- i still don't know how First Order is supposed to function
- i guess #TheResistance are the only ones that care about the Republic? Because usually republican regimes can't be destroyed just by "cutting off its head", that can happen with dictatorships

[Strife ❤️]

Spoiler:

[It's good how you can stage a failed mutiny, overthrowing the Admiral of your flagship then having your plan completely failing and resulting in half of your comrades dying and it just being written off as 'That Poe, what a loose cannon, but I like him'"]