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    So, read a few summaries of TLJ and not even sure if it's all true or not, but:

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    [snoke dies, luke dies, admiral ackbar dies, phasma dies, kylo takes over and wants to wipe out both sides now, rey is a nobody mary sue, poe is a douche, finn is... finn]


    Just have to wait next week and see when I go watch it myself.

    In other news the 2017 Darth Vader comic is pretty good and doctor aphra is still going strong, battlefront ii is still shit though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gally View Post
    So, read a few summaries of TLJ and not even sure if it's all true or not, but:

    Spoiler:
    [snoke dies, luke dies, admiral ackbar dies, phasma dies, kylo takes over and wants to wipe out both sides now, rey is a nobody mary sue, poe is a douche, finn is... finn]
    Spoiler:
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    snoke dies
    - he does, literally only gives evil speech to rey and dies to kylo back... sidestabbing
    luke dies
    - true but to be fair the sequence is amazing
    admiral ackbar dies
    - true
    phasma dies
    - i dont even know what the fuck was his point. Or... i guess what was half the characters point in new trilogy
    kylo takes over and wants to wipe out both sides now
    - he sort of want to build his own empire i dont fucking know anymore
    rey is a nobody mary sue
    - thats poe, she's just a goody two shoes
    poe is a douche
    - po is more of a fucking mary sue than rei
    finn is... finn
    - comedic relief all over the place. he also apparently knows even how empire ships work despite being a janitor... of... starkiller base? i dont fucking know

    overall
    - i'm so fucking confused. Snoke is literally plot device the character (regardless whether or not he does an (unexpected) comeback last episode because everything is set up for Kylo and Rei to duke it out), Luke and Leya do more Jedi tricks this ep than the both other trilogies combined, kylo is wtf, what the fuck is snoke's guard that almost kills 2 jedi, entire sidequest is sort of fucking meaningless and amounted to nothing except finns comedic value.
    i liked the tone of the movie overall. It would've made good... first part of the trilogy. maybe not but it sure feels like one.]
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    No, seriously, keep your spoilers out of the Activity Stream until, like, Boxing Day or something. People are going to be seeing this over Christmas.
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    It was really bad

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    I think the thematic feeling to it is good and even probably in the same arena as to what George might've done, but scrambling the plot and character archetypes in a way he would not, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but also sort of makes it feel very different in a way I can't easily describe.

    Definitely see why Hamill was initially against where this went, though. Like, in fact, I thought that the OT characters were railroaded onto dour paths for the sake of the plot they came up with for these movies rather than a natural evolution that made sense for them. In a lot of ways, they're actually strangely worse in that way than the prequels; the prequels have the end already mapped out, yes, so they're both predictable in the way they go and a sense of danger is removed, but at the same time you're there to explore how the end came to be rather than being surprised by the end. This feels like, okay, so, RotJ has a natural conclusion to these characters and their arcs, but now that we have to functionally say that those conclusions were just a middle rather than an end, we're going to tack things on. And since the drama comes from an unknown end again rather than exploring the path that got to the end...time to spruce things up!

    Or something. idk, it was enjoyable and funny and the visuals were great but the concerns I had at the end of TFA and the leeway I was giving the plot over potentially OOC Luke is used up and now I just feel disappointed it was what I was hoping it would not be.

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    Spoiler:
    [I just knew the common defense of the film would be that it's about 'subverting expectations', and from what I've seen online, I guessed right. As if doing whatever's unexpected is inherently good, and if you disliked it clearly you shouldn't have expected anything or had any theories at all.

    Honestly I'm fine with Rey being a nobody. But Snoke's death is quite honestly the dumbest shit ever. The First Order is already a joke with Hux, there was no reason to make them even more of a joke by killing the only threatening antagonist before we learn a single thing about him.]

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    Be real with me guys...

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    gotta sell that merch

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    Maybe I'm the only here that liked this movie, like, really-really like it. Especially the twist that
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    they killed Snoke, who is pretty much another Palpatine. The moment he starts goading on Kylo, I know he will die. One thing Snoke need to learn from Sidious, is that never insult your emotionally unstable student unless you really doesn't need him anymore.


    I really dislike Kylo Ren before, but now he kinda redeemed on me. Though, I still find the new heroes are super boring. That new guy tho, he is my new favorite.

    On the movie as a whole, not just characterization, this reminds me of Apoc ep 22. You got an episode that full of action sequences back to back with little break, but they somehow doesn't make the movie tiring.

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    It was a long ass movie

    felt very meta

    but uh, not sure what to think about this movie

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    ^ If I'm not mistaken, I believe it is now the longest SW movie to date.

    Beating out the previous title holder "Attack of the Clones" by about ten minutes.
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    Whoa, I really didn't like this one.

    and judging by the rottentomatoes audience score, neither did a lot of people
    Last edited by aldeayeah; December 15th, 2017 at 10:14 PM.
    don't quote me on this

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    I unfortunately got sick halfway through the movie and had to miss out on the second half. To be honest, I don't really feel like going out of my way to see it again, at least in theaters. It felt sluggish and messy.

    Despite my negative impression of the movie itself, Mark Hamill was a lot better then I expected him to be in his return to Star Wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ3 View Post
    but uh, not sure what to think about this movie
    Having just seen it...same.

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    I enjoyed Last Jedi more than The Force Awakens, as the things that annoyed me with Last Jedi are largely the fault of The Force Awakens having set those things up. The casino bit being too long is my biggest gripe unique to this movie, though what Leia does at one point was kind of out there.
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    I just got back from an afternoon showing and I liked it but it also kind of felt like a Star Wars movie about how to approach making new Star Wars movies. Like, the main question was whether you can move past relying on nostalgia without also losing what made so many people love the movies in the first place, right?
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    Spoiler:
    [Luke being the best thing in the movie kinda answers that question doesn't it?]
    don't quote me on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Spoiler:
    [Luke being the best thing in the movie kinda answers that question doesn't it?]
    Spoiler:
    [The best part is everything that isn’t the utterly pointless Finn/Rose stuff]

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