He's not controlling the people's actions dude.
He's not controlling the people's actions dude.
Of course not. He can't, he isn't a person with a will. Everyone does what they want to do. He's just the tool, or the power source, that makes it happen.Originally Posted by Kotonoha
Going to my movie metaphor, he isn't the writer, or the director, so he can't make shit up, he can only pull things that were made for him and piece them together like an editor.
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See if you're saying he's pulling events from other realities and people are acting them out, then they're NOT doing what they want to do but just being controlled to follow a script.
I just don't see where it says in the game that the EVENTS are being pulled from an actual place in reality like the characters are. Does it actually say that anywhere, because if not then it just sounds impossible.
For the folks at home, this all comes from me and Jack having different ideas of what HA's events being "possible, if the characters were to assemble" means.
Jack's stance: Infinite parallel worlds exist, anything that is possible therefore absolutely must exist in a parallel universe
My stance: Possible just means possible and the condition of "if the characters were assembled" is a big "if" to begin with (also if you say anything possible has to happen in another universe doesn't that make everything pointless?)
According to Nasu, yes. According to people who get hung up on the multi-verse thing, it means MY FANFIC (or headcanon) IS TOTES REAL Y'ALL
In an unlimited multiverse, everyone is a Heroic Spirit! Even no-life losers that spend all their time on forums discussing porn games!Or something.
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HOLY NASU CANON. I am acknowledged as HS. I waited for this day. FINALLYIn an unlimited multiverse, everyone is a Heroic Spirit! Even no-life losers that spend all their time on forums discussing porn games!
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
How does Jack deal with Nasu's "they can't all happen or none of the routes would have meaning"? Does Jack really think Nasu would pick a completely out of left field as a thing that happened?
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
I want to know how he reconciles his theory that a reality exists in which Saber hangs around as Shirou's Servant with the existence of Takeuchi. Because we all know that if there was any way for that too happen, he would have forced Nasu to include it.
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I think it was "there are some other parallel worlds so how does that fit with Nasu's stance" (Zelretch box scene etc)
To be fair, that kind of happened.
I always took Nasu's answer as a dodge.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Fixed.
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
Which answer? (why do I never understand any of your posts, Marc)
Urgh... Last Episode, y u so Horribad!?
The one about parallel worlds. Come on, you and Terra were just talking about it.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
I wonder if Nasu conceptualizes parallel worlds differently than we do. Like he doesn't think of them as fully realized realities running simultaneously alongside with ours. They're just what ifs.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
Ok so what was he dodging?The one about parallel worlds. Come on, you and Terra were just talking about it.
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This is... entirely possible.
He never gives an actual answer; he just says something like "if that was true it would make things meaningless," but he has Zelretch and also that Jewel Sword. It sounds like he wrote it into the story but doesn't like acknowledging the implications of it. Wants to have it both ways.
Although just because there's a multiverse doesn't mean that everything ever is possible. Just that stuff like the three routes can co exist.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
I think it's sort of an answer, like "you can think of them as parallel if you want, but I probably wouldn't actually canonize that".
Like just because Zelretch and parallel worlds exist doesn't mean the routes of FSN necessarily have to all exist at the same time.
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