Heaven's Feel Movies

[You]

Wouldn't Saber be a special case because she's a real girl, though?

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At that point, the Grail Mud would shift her alignment to evil but leave her body intact.

But she's just a real girl crammed inside a servant container like everyone else.

[Siriel]

Her real body was destroyed

This is the part that's a cool fanfic.

Setting aside this being obviously wrong in context because you're talking about Saber whose real body is centuries ago, Blackening isn't mentioned as destroying the container.

The blackened Servant is incarnated by the power of the Grail so the more concrete ties to the physical plane turns them into powerful beings.
Their physical interference power increases but at the same time they lose the ability to return to spirit form.

[aldeayeah]

Shirou reinforces a black key until it's as hard as diamond and that gets bent

making something as hard as a diamond *and* that can get bent without shattering is quite a feat

[Alice007]

you could even say it's... magical

[You]

making something as hard as a diamond *and* that can get bent without shattering is quite a feat

Whenever I read this scene I just think of candy canes and wanting a candy cane.

[Korburss]

making something as hard as a diamond *and* that can get bent without shattering is quite a feat

You know. Bending a diamond hard length of metal is something beyond science and may be to the point where traveling to alternate dimensions is easier depending on certain theories.

[Altima of the Gates]

I'm going to go with "since Avalon is related to UBW it can't heal swordification" thing. Sounds very neat.

It seems to have a hard time healing wounds made by Excalibur, so why not?

[Alice007]

It seems to have a hard time healing wounds made by Excalibur, so why not?

it does? i don't really remember that

[Daiki]

Its fact that her body was destroyed and a new black version was made, is there some issue with what i said?

What body?

[LJ3]

You know. Bending a diamond hard length of metal is something beyond science and may be to the point where traveling to alternate dimensions is easier depending on certain theories.

Educate me. I am interested.

[Strange_One]

I thought she was just consumed by the mud grail and regurgitated in blackened form as needed.

Kinda like a cloud based version of Passion lips internal cleavage drive.

[Korburss]

Educate me. I am interested.

Right, so I'm tired and my brain is half dead. Forgive me if this doesn't make sense.

So basically under certain circumstances matter may move between dimensions naturally. For instance: One of the newer theories on black holes deals in the fact that matter cannot be destroyed, yet the mass of a black hole does not increase. It basically says that black holes are randomly crapping things out at either: Another point in time due to gravitational effects of causality, Another point in space, or to some theoretical point in another dimensional space. Remember that black hole talk when they used the Large Hadron Collider? While that was all bull and it was perfectly safe, it is perfectly possible to create a black hole, and can be done with current technology levels. It is also technically possible to travel through them, surviving them however.

Meanwhile. A fundamental rule of the universe is that the denser something becomes, the less flexibility it is. The hardness of a diamond is caused by its density, it is very dense. Density requires more force to bend. Try folding a piece of paper. Now fold it eight times. Could you do it without pliers? Diamonds are so dense that they break under the force require to alter them. Unless you can fundamentally alter the way the universe works, diamonds do not bend.

[francobull3]

So berserker is so strong he beats dimentional logic away?

[SeiKeo]

Meanwhile. A fundamental rule of the universe is that the denser something becomes, the less flexibility it is.

Diamond lattice carbon: 3.5g/cubic cm.
Hg: 13.5g/cubic cm.

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Diamonds aren't even that fucking dense, that's just you.

The density.

[Korburss]

Diamond lattice carbon: 3.5g/cubic cm.
Hg: 13.5g/cubic cm.

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Diamonds aren't even that fucking dense, that's just you.

The density.

You know. My point wasn't that diamonds were especially dense, I was just using that to simplify a point. My point was that they don't bend. Well, technically they can "bend" but not without extreme heat but yeah, that's a different subject.

[francobull3]

Perhaps Herk's strike was so powerful, it released enough energy to heat the black key to the point it became bendable!

[SeiKeo]

Meanwhile. A fundamental rule of the universe is that the denser something becomes, the less flexibility it is. The hardness of a diamond is caused by its density, it is very dense. Density requires more force to bend. Diamonds are so dense that they break under the force require to alter them. Unless you can fundamentally alter the way the universe works, diamonds do not bend.

You know. My point wasn't that diamonds were especially dense

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[Korburss]

Perhaps Herk's strike was so powerful, it released enough energy to heat the black key to the point it became bendable!

Hot as in "molten metal" hot. That opens up a whole new set of issues.

[francobull3]

Are we really going to question the physics when you have Rider who can run vertically on the edge of a skyscraper?
Or a spearman who won't die even if he is killed.
Or a man who'se cells are being replaced by blades.
Or a swordsman who can cut once, yet the slash occurs three times at the same time.

[Korburss]

Are we really going to question the physics when you have Rider who can run vertically on the edge of a skyscraper?
Or a spearman who won't die even if he is killed.
Or a man who'se cells are being replaced by blades.
Or a swordsman who can cut once, yet the slash occurs three times at the same time.

And a good point.