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    Erm, no one got the Realta Nua Art as the mini-poster; the Realta Nua Art WAS the (digital screen) movie poster.

    I was worried that I wasn't going to get a mini-poster (of the actual film poster) myself, but fortunately I stuck around long enough in the immediate vicinity (at least a few minutes past the short PV for Lost Butterfly) to encounter the theater employee handing out posters to theater goers. They meant to be ready to hand them out earlier (maybe as soon as people started leaving the screen?) but apparently the movie ended sooner than they thought.



    Be sure to ask about it! (And even the first answer you get might not be a guarantee-- IIRC, when I asked about it when collecting my ticket, they seemed to think there weren't any 'goodies' to be distributed to film-goers.)

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    Not that it really matters, but the advertisement poster the theater I went to did was something something purple with Rider and Saber facing off so yeah
    Was it this one?



    If so, at least that is official promo material.

    Maybe the one who put out the Realta Nua art as the theatrical promo art is using subliminal messaging to tell you to READ THE VN.
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    Yup that was it.

    Wait, after end credits was Lost Butterfly

    FUCK

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    YOU FOOL.

    I thought it'd be a given with nerd property movies these days to *always* stick around until after the credits just in case there's a post-credits scene. Never mind with anime.

    And you didn't want to listen to Hana no Uta in its entirety before the PV? Even though it wasn't subtitled and you likely wouldn't understand it anyway...

    (Huh, why wasn't Hana no Uta subtitled? Makes me remember how neither the OP/ED songs for Madoka Rebellion were subbed in the BD release, though the theatrical release had them subbed, nor how LAST STARDUST wasn't given subtitles in UBW. What's up with that Aniplex? )

    Anyway, I think a camrip of the PV might've been linked to by somebody (or linked through a link in a link) some number of pages back, shortly after the November U.S. Premiere. That's all I'll say.
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    There sure have been some little anecdotes about BLers going with their younger siblings.

    Meanwhile, there's an older sibling I'll be seeing it together with within the next 24 hours, and I'm unsure about just how much she'll like it. We were talking a little bit about Fate/ last weekend, and as an anime-only (who hasn't seen the DEEN FSN anime) she was wondering how Heaven's Feel compared to Zero and UBW. I either said it was closer to Zero or a bit like both (qualifications not mutually exclusive I guess). She went on to comment on how she liked Zero's story better, which I knew already-- she thought it was more "epic", whereas UBW felt narrower/limited by comparison (though I think she enjoyed the Shirou/Archer confrontation)-- but then also commented on how she liked the lighter mood/tone of UBW more than Zero, which I thought interesting.

    So.... what, does that leave Heaven's Feel incorporating her least favorite aspects of both series? Or could Heaven's Feel be thought of as a more "epic" story, too, whatever that means?

    Yeah, I'm really wondering how much room there is for her to like it. I wonder if there's some way I should "prepare" her outside of actually spoiling anything on the car ride there.

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    ON ANOTHER NOTE.

    I feel she'll have some questions to ask about some of what actually happened in the movie, because there sure as heck are some questions that popped up for me during my Monday night viewing

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    1. How exactly did the redone Medea/Kuzuki death scene transpire? I started getting lost when Hassan held Kuzuki by the head and then told Medea to "unleash" him, after which Medea used Rule Breaker on... herself? She used it on herself to release her bond with Kuzuki, right, to try and get Hassan to spare him and go after her instead? But then I thought the subtitles before said Hassan already killed him by cutting up his limbs and such? And then, what, she gets shanked anyway, Kuzuki gets left to die (or was he already dead when Hassan held him up?), and her corpse gets dragged away by Hassan? Doesn't help that it's handled much differently than what I recall of the VN route or HF manga.

    2. What was Zouken commenting on when he talked about a failed summoning in the film, at that one point when he was monologuing in the worm dungeon? And then what was up with those giant bugs (built of many smaller bugs?) in Zouken's worm dungeon? It looked like he was housing enemies from a Souls game or an RPG's forest dungeon.

    3. Not much of an actual question, but, didn't the Shadow come off as somewhat low-res? I could've sworn I saw a jaggie on it in a medium-long distance shot.

    4. Why was Sakura wearing sandals in the snow as she waited for Shirou at the end, or not bundle up much at all? That took me of the film more than I wanted it too. I thought she had more of a self-preservation instinct than this? (I still love her but c'mon)


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    Ugh, I feel like such an anime-only normie, having forgotten the details of the Heaven's Feel route that I have. Even though I read it just as closely as any of the other routes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John D. Pliskin View Post
    Spoiler:

    [1. How exactly did the redone Medea/Kuzuki death scene transpire? I started getting lost when Hassan held Kuzuki by the head and then told Medea to "unleash" him, after which Medea used Rule Breaker on... herself? She used it on herself to release her bond with Kuzuki, right, to try and get Hassan to spare him and go after her instead? But then I thought the subtitles before said Hassan already killed him by cutting up his limbs and such? And then, what, she gets shanked anyway, Kuzuki gets left to die (or was he already dead when Hassan held him up?), and her corpse gets dragged away by Hassan? Doesn't help that it's handled much differently than what I recall of the VN route or HF manga.]
    Presumably because response[Medea was still considered Cursed Arm's Master since he was summoned through Kojirou].

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    [2. What was Zouken commenting on when he talked about a failed summoning in the film, at that one point when he was monologuing in the worm dungeon? And then what was up with those giant bugs (built of many smaller bugs?) in Zouken's worm dungeon? It looked like he was housing enemies from a Souls game or an RPG's forest dungeon.]
    first part's response[Zouken sees Medusa as a scrub Servant]
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    Quote Originally Posted by John D. Pliskin View Post
    Spoiler:

    1. How exactly did the redone Medea/Kuzuki death scene transpire? I started getting lost when Hassan held Kuzuki by the head and then told Medea to "unleash" him, after which Medea used Rule Breaker on... herself? She used it on herself to release her bond with Kuzuki, right, to try and get Hassan to spare him and go after her instead? But then I thought the subtitles before said Hassan already killed him by cutting up his limbs and such? And then, what, she gets shanked anyway, Kuzuki gets left to die (or was he already dead when Hassan held him up?), and her corpse gets dragged away by Hassan? Doesn't help that it's handled much differently than what I recall of the VN route or HF manga.
    Spoiler:

    Hassan, summoned by Zouken from Kojirou, is still bounded to Caster Command Spells. So he capture Kuziki, he cuts his limbs, face and so on (he comments "Is he human? I cut so much and he still moves") and then Caster arrives. He aske her to be free (Implying he will kill kuzuki if she doesn't free him) so she uses Rule Breaker on herself. Assassin, now free, kills Caster and Kuzuki.

    Spoiler:

    2. What was Zouken commenting on when he talked about a failed summoning in the film, at that one point when he was monologuing in the worm dungeon? And then what was up with those giant bugs (built of many smaller bugs?) in Zouken's worm dungeon? It looked like he was housing enemies from a Souls game or an RPG's forest dungeon.
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    he is basically saying: this fifth war is a mess, this ritual is a disaster.

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    Ooooooh now I get it

    you fucked up Medea

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    Wait.... sooo... In the movie, it's not Saber who kill her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Wait.... sooo... In the movie, it's not Saber who kill her?
    HF movie is all in about scenes simplification. Assassin killing her is way faster and clearer.

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    Aaahhh yess make sense
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    Woah, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
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    Hassan, summoned by Zouken from Kojirou, is still bounded to Caster Command Spells. So he capture Kuziki, he cuts his limbs, face and so on (he comments "Is he human? I cut so much and he still moves") and then Caster arrives. He aske her to be free (Implying he will kill kuzuki if she doesn't free him) so she uses Rule Breaker on herself. Assassin, now free, kills Caster and Kuzuki.


    Spoiler:

    he is basically saying: this fifth war is a mess, this ritual is a disaster.
    While these answers aren't quite the same, I guess they're both right, or at least not mutually exclusive?

    I can't remember ever inferring that Hassan was ever in servitude or a Servant to Medea in the first place, though. If that's the case, then how come Medea used no CSes? (Or did Medea not ever have any for Kojiro to start with, as an improper Master? I can't recall.)

    And how did Hassan come to chest-burst out of Kojiro in this route anyway, again, as opposed to the other routes? Did Zouken do something to cause that to happen? Or is that something explored later in the route? Can't remember either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John D. Pliskin View Post
    Woah, thanks.




    While these answers aren't quite the same, I guess they're both right, or at least not mutually exclusive?

    I can't remember ever inferring that Hassan was ever in servitude or a Servant to Medea in the first place, though. If that's the case, then how come Medea used no CSes? (Or did Medea not ever have any for Kojiro to start with, as an improper Master? I can't recall.)

    And how did Hassan come to chest-burst out of Kojiro in this route anyway, again, as opposed to the other routes? Did Zouken do something to cause that to happen? Or is that something explored later in the route? Can't remember either.
    Yes, it was Zouken that summoned TA using Kojirou as a catalyst. I think the idea is that the abnormal summoning of Hassan using an already summoned Servant caused him to be linked to Medea, Kojirou's Master. Probably she was afraid that using the CS Hassan could have the time to kill Kuzuki.
    Anyway, the whole "Medea frees Hassan with rule breaker" is just an anime original interpretation, just like in the manga Medea kills a puppet Kuzuki when she tries to free him from the spell binding him using Rule breaker. In the VN Saber and Shirou find her with Rule Breaker in her hand, covered of blood, with Kuzuki dead. The reader does not know exactly what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John D. Pliskin View Post
    Did anyone else's theater end up using the Realta Nua poster art in their movie "poster'?

    This seems to have been a thing with Marcus Theaters, the chain that owns the Ronnies in St. Louis.



    Still find it funny that they didn't use the official movie art. (Doesn't this art include some late-stage spoilers?) Would Arashi know how the Realta Nua art got thrown into the promotional materials?
    Damn, it looks badass with that RN art. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John D. Pliskin View Post
    I can't remember ever inferring that Hassan was ever in servitude or a Servant to Medea in the first place, though. If that's the case, then how come Medea used no CSes? (Or did Medea not ever have any for Kojiro to start with, as an improper Master? I can't recall.)
    Medea did try to use her command spells against Cursed Arm, but then gave up once it was clear that he would kill Kuzuki instantly if she didn't do as he said.

    There's even a screenshot in the thread where you can see her about to use her command spells.

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    yeah, Command Spells have a lag

    now I remember better that scene

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