Eh, one of the consistent things in Nasu's work is that ordinary people will never accomplish anything- you need to be super-special-awesome from birth.Originally Posted by Nihilm
Eh, one of the consistent things in Nasu's work is that ordinary people will never accomplish anything- you need to be super-special-awesome from birth.
Hakuno Kishinami and Twice H. Pieceman.
Wait no, the latter would have accomplished something if not stopped by the former.
Ok so just Hakuno.
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....yeah, that Aoko chick with her 1 circuit was so totally awesome from birth, she was totally supposed to be the successor for her family from the start
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Yes and part of my point was that the notion we were talking about was very Nasu, it wasn't even a slight against him
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Did she have her mana cost-efficiency before becoming the succesor?
I haven't read Mahoyo, so I'm not sure.
For some reason I recall something about her being distinctly not awesome before being appointed successor though.
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No, the point was that Touko actually had great circuits and stuff and Aoko was like average, and so Touko thought she'd be the heir and then BAM her younger sister who didn't even know anything was chosen as successor.
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So what I'm getting from this is that Touko is Shinji?
You know, except not delusional.
So not really Shinji at all.
Also Touko can actually get shit done. And she's hot.
That first point can make sense, but I can think of a few people who would fight you to the death on it not applying to Shinji.
I don't really want to pick a fight over this subject for the 30th time.
The main difference is more in that Touko was actually the more magically qualified person by a normal metric, where as Shinji was never going to outgun Sakura in the magic department
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If someone gave Shinji a gun, Kotomine would've won the HGW.
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If someone gave Shinji a gun his nerves would kill him.
DDD's not quite an uplifting story.
What I see here is a discussion about Tokiomi's reasons to give his daughter to the Matous, Sakura's emotional state, Kireis morality and the legitimacy of Aoko as a successor...
To be precise, in Zero, Kirei is born as empty, a man with a moral compass, a man who sees every action as objective and strives to exceed in it, but then throws it away because it did not give meaning to his existence.
I don't think it can qualify him as evil, unless the Doctor interceded, which is a turning plot point for his character development. Remember that Gen wrote it specifically for Kirei and Gil. XD
On Sakura's emotional state, well, she only wanted love and affection from her family just like everyone else. Heck, up until her high school days, she still wanted her sister to at least acknowledge her as her sister. But then that is crushed by the actions of Magi who are pursuing the Root. For the sake of the study, they do those things, neglecting the emotional effect on their loved ones. Although it's different in Rin's case, Sakura misinterpreted it as such. See the original Emiyas' father - son relationship in Zero.
On Tokiomi. He really need to brush up on his paternal instincts. Intentions are good, but then the directions to where his other daughter will go to makes it a bad choice. Besides, he did not explain to his daughters on why he did this, so yeah, we know how this went down.
Also, on Nasu's comment that 1st gen magi sucked... It's all in the application of Magecraft. That's the charm point of what Magi call Specialists. They spat on that term like trash, now that term's going to kick their buns to kingdom come.
It's a bad choice for the Aozakis to choose someone who haven't achieved something extraordinary. Would you choose a successor who haven't done monumentally amazing?
Not dealing with it...
Why even try?
This is golden...
Wow.
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That's some impressive missing of the point.
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That fallen souls might bear our plea.
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Because sanitation wasn't invented in his time
As a being who represents being right, the post hurt him.
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That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
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