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    To be fair, you have no idea what language they were watching the movie in.
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    Kamiya will always first and foremost be Zetsubou sensei to me.

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    Shinji is real and voices himself

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    Excited~

    My showing is in 30 minutes and I can't wait to see all the scenes I've been hearing about. ^^
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    Just got out of the showing.

    It was great.

    Sakura was lewd


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    Does Movie 2 have any UK showings? Hope I don't have to wait for the blurays. When are they releasing anyway?

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    An anime-only friend who saw the showing is gonna chat with me later, but his first impressions were really positive.
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    Small intimate showing after work was good, expected the laughing at the inappropriate moments(really odd how they laughed at Shirou getting his arm ripped off) so it didn't really hit me that much.

    I still feel Sudou did what he could, and I can see how some Ilya fans feel they wanted more. Hell, they missed a few cute Sakura/Shirou moments like the "you get a really bad failing score" when he asked her to grade his magecraft.
    Context in some parts might be lost but again, this was a 'we gotta keep this moving' type of pacing with the lack of time.
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    My annoyance with things that got cut was more than balanced by the things that were done superbly. Sakura in Wonderland was the highlight of the film for me, with the anime-original Taiga scene being a close second.

    The scenes I would have preferred been adapted pretty much got screwed over by things in the first movie that I found unnecessary and wasting time.
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    Just finished, I really loved it. You can tell how thoughtful and careful the direction for each scene was. Sudou must really love Sakura....or at least wants to do her justice. I know Sakura is probably the least popular of the three main route girls but I find her so interesting, some of what she was saying to Shirou I could relate to and the movie definitely makes you feel for her.

    My favorite interaction was probably the Rin and Sakura moment in the kitchen, I love seeing them like that.

    The fight scenes were intense, the escalation of that Saber Alter vs Herk scene wow.

    I look forward to the last movie!
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    expected the laughing at the inappropriate moments(really odd how they laughed at Shirou getting his arm ripped off)
    On one hand, I would love to see movies like this in theaters, but on the other hand I can't stand this. There should be a rule against this.
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    Tagging some of my thoughts on the film
    Just got back myself, damn it was a fun film. A fair amount of exposition and such was dropped and all, but it was to be expected after how much was dropped from Presage Flower. Visually, the film was gorgeous, and some scenes were completely out of left field, such as that Sakura in Wonderland bit. The whole time that scene was going on, I kept repeating to myself in my head "Oh fuck this is going to be so much worse when it drops out of this obvious dream state!" I was on the edge of my seat for that whole scene, and than hard cut to Gil talking and the scene transitioning back to the alleyway: superb. Imo that scene was the highlight of the film beyond the Saber vs Berserker battle.

    I think the point that stuck out to me the most though was how disturbing ufotable made the Shadow in every scene it was involved in. The scene where it just flickers in and out of sight with the lighting, the scene in the bathroom where Sakura has one of her early Dark moments than leaves - only for her Shadow to follow a few seconds after, it's appearance in the forest... Fuck, I want more of those scenes!!

    I will admit though that a lot of the Shirou/Illya stuff didn't seem to translate well to the film. Some parts did, but others didn't and felt a bit forced and non-sensical without the necessary context. It does suck, but I guess we're just not going to have the big emotional impact of the Dress of Heaven and Die Lorelei track with her final scene that I think some will have wanted.


    Also there was a bit of a surprise at the theater I was at - Someone actually came in Casual Saber cosplay just as the film started. Didn't go and speak to her in that situation of course, just raised my eyebrows. Did not expect anyone to show up in costume for that small-ass theater, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Small intimate showing after work was good, expected the laughing at the inappropriate moments(really odd how they laughed at Shirou getting his arm ripped off) so it didn't really hit me that much.

    I still feel Sudou did what he could, and I can see how some Ilya fans feel they wanted more. Hell, they missed a few cute Sakura/Shirou moments like the "you get a really bad failing score" when she asked him to grade his magecraft.
    Context in some parts might be lost but again, this was a 'we gotta keep this moving' type of pacing with the lack of time.
    I loved it, especially scenes like the Sakura dream or Rin & Sakura interacting in the kitchen and of course the fight scenes, but I have some quibbles.

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    I feel inappropriate music messed up some of the scenes. Like the part where Sakura comes in to ask Shirou for sex. The music there, in my opinion, didn't suit the scene.

    The scene where Kirei suddenly reveals Sakura is Rin's biological little sister felt odd compared to the walk on the bridge scene in the VN where Rin explains about Sakura & the Matou.

    Also the scene where Shirou finds Sakura in the rain, the way the camera sort of moved around in this dramatic moment kind of hurt it some for me.
    Also, the CGI felt a little off at times. Like the bits with the little shadow familiars. Or whenever the Shadow's tentacles came out.
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    On one hand, I would love to see movies like this in theaters, but on the other hand I can't stand this. There should be a rule against this.
    I was lucky enough to only have some laughter at the part where Rin reacts to Sakura calling her "Nee-san" in the kitchen in the theater I was in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    The scene where Kirei suddenly reveals Sakura is Rin's biological little sister felt odd compared to the walk on the bridge scene in the VN where Rin explains about Sakura & the Matou.
    The reveal was in the church even in the VN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    The reveal was in the church even in the VN.
    Ah looking at it again, you're right.

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    They really put their all into this one and outdid themselves. Only major flaw that comes to mind is how they skipped over some Illya scenes (most notably the "Die Lorelei" scene).

    Must be setting up for HF Normal end

    Highlight of the movie was definitely Sakura's dream sequence. The end of that scene had everyone in the theater I was in going "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooo"

    I guess another issue I had (just a small nitpick really) is the lack of songs from the VN. If Part 3 doesn't have Yuki Kajiura remixes of "Emiya" and "Light and Darkness" I will be a sad boi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisaba View Post
    The fight scenes were intense, the escalation of that Saber Alter vs Herk scene wow.
    Eh. The fight scenes were the least interesting parts of the movie for me. Rider/Shirou's was neat for following the VN in how she was punting him around so that he could eventually punch Shinji, but we didn't even get Berserker ripping apart his body to attack Saber.

    Would have traded the longer fight scene + crazy Sakura in mirror scene for adapting the better crazy Sakura in mirror scene here by interjecting bits and pieces of the aftermath from the Shadow stabbing Archer.

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    Sakura: But Senpai can't fight anymore.

    In a trance, she speaks her true feelings. A short murmur. Still breathing heavily, she raises her head. The figure in the mirror is crushed by a feeling of guilt. The apologetic expression is caused by her worry for Emiya Shirou's well-being.

    The mirror reflects a face with a crooked smile.
    Losing out on the whole arm transplant scene/info dump was also a bummer. Only other point of contention is that they could have really milked that Sakura in Wonderland bit by having links to it during the death of Shinji scene before she goes Dark Sakura.

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    Sakura: I wish he wouldn't exist.

    Eleven years. She thinks something she has never thought during that time.

    [squelching noise]

    The air makes a sound. The man on top of her falls down. Fresh blood splatters onto her. The girl raises her body and looks at her silent brother.

    Sakura: Oh

    It was an instant death. He must have been hit with a very sharp string. A line is visible on the back of his head, as if it was drawn in with a pencil. The line reaches his brain, but the line is too thin to make his brain spill out, and his blood is the only thing flowing out.

    Sakura: Oh

    She looks down at it without emotion. The shadow that killed her brother wavers. It wavers in the gray sunlight. Her own shadow…Her own shadow is standing up and wavering. [Rather than the whole swarm of mini-Shadows at the start there]

    Sakura: Ah

    So she's the one that killed. It was she who killed her brother. She understands, but does not feel anything. She feels nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. No disgust, no fear, no guilt, no regret. The only thought in her vacant mind is that it was easy. [Sakura still appearing to regret her actions here probably a Sudo thing]

    Sakura: Ah...ah

    She's used to it. This isn't her first time. Because she saw plenty in her dreams. She saw it in her dream, so did she copy what she saw?

    Sakura: Ah, ha

    She doesn't know. But she thinks she should've done it sooner. If she'd known she wouldn't feel anything, she would've done it a long time ago. She thinks, and…

    Sakura: FuFufu.

    Her empty emotion murmurs that it was fun. It was fun. It was fun. It was fun...? It was fun...? Where? When? What? Dream. Dream. That's right. She wasn't dreaming. Those dreams were [flashback to her eating the bear candy with audio of her still slightly chuckling] ...not dreams [This is where we should have gotten her eating a random person's finger instead of in the death of Gilgamesh scene, maybe by a frizzle/static thing immediately after the bear candy thing + escalating laughter]. The one that wandered through the night and killed the men was herself. Yes, she killed many people. She killed many, many people. KILLED those that ran away KILLED without leaving a drop KILLED everyone KILLED with pleasure KILLED laughing KILLED laughing KILLED laughing…!![Probably skip this unless we go for some weird Rei-like death scenes with that main Shadow gorging]

    Sakura: Aha, Ahaha. Ahahaha

    It's so funny, she laughs. Because she'll break down unless she laughs. She can't bear it unless she's laughing. But more tears flow out the more she laughs, and everything becomes meaningless for her.

    Sakura: Haha! Ahaha, hahahahahahahaha!

    It's so funny that her stomach hurts. It's as if she's regressing mentally every time she laughs. But it's so comforting and natural. Oh, how stupid, how stupid, how foolish…!

    Sakura: Fu....fufu, ah

    Her face is contorted in a manic grin. In place of her silent brother, the girl sweetly spills out a voice like glass. And like that, after tinkering with her brother's body like she's playing house, she gets up. She stands in front of the mirror, still covered in blood. Behind her stands the shadow that killed so many. Her own shadow. The black shadow that has eaten countless people. Someone was there, trying hard not to turn her into it. Someone was there by her side. She laughs. There was never any hope for her. [Have the room going dark red here with the swarm of mini-Shadows moving stuff around for Sakura to more easily see the mirror and do the following]

    Sakura: I see. I was slowly going crazy.

    She twirls in front of the mirror. The girl makes a proud smile.

    Sakura: Look, Senpai. I was crazy from the beginning.

    And speaks as if asking for a dance. The girl's consciousness ends there. No, to be more accurate, it changes. It's merely that her repressed subconscious has risen to the surface. [Represent this with the Shadow enveloping her like it did in the movie]
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Geek View Post
    They really put their all into this one and outdid themselves. Only major flaw that comes to mind is how they skipped over some Illya scenes (most notably the "Die Lorelei" scene).

    Must be setting up for HF Normal end
    Well, Sudo is making it pretty obvious that this is the Sakura route, not the weird mish-mash of Sakura/Illya route that is in the VN.
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    this was my second time watching it and I noticed that a few scenes from the pv weren’t in the movie. https://i.imgur.com/kVxsU0x.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/K7yTz2V.png maybe there is hope that the blu ray will have extended scenes, and that they didn’t just outright cut these shots. there was also a shot of gil next to sakura in the church bed, but wasn’t in the film also.

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    I don't think they'll add anything beside 15 -30 seconds scene
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