Heaven's Feel Movies

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Are the blu-rays out yet btw

no. It's august

[hayate]

No, G-sen just pulled some funny business about side heroine routes existing in a completely different universe than main heroine route. The side routes contradict the Big Plot Tweest of the main route, so Looseboy later went and said theyre set in an alternate universe where the main route twist doesnt exist and the truth of... “certain things” is completely different.

Ah, you were talking about the plot device set by G - sen instead of the story.

Huh, I just ruined the plot twist on that route by saying that.

*stare at blank space over existential failure intensifies...*

[The Geek]

Like, in my headcanon Zouken had to have been one of the adversaries leftover that was finally dealt with when the grail dismantling eventually took place.

I thought that too. Makes you wonder if we'll get an adaptation of the grail dismantling storyline once Case Files is done.

[Altima of the Gates]

Zouken mentions not having much time left in HF so it may well be that his Soul Alzheimers ends up running its course shortly after the fifth HGW and he just poofs out of existence.

I think people take the Soul Alzheimers thing with too much stock, he is able to accurately gauge his own powers so senility is mostly relegated to the fact that he forgot his purpose for living for so long, in all other aspects he seems pretty sharp given he has tricked the Tohsaka all these years killing many people to maintain his body on their land with them none the wiser, and seemed to he the only rep of three families who knew the grail was tainted (or the Einzbern's knew and don't care) in the 4th war. So if he says he can last 50 more years, I would assume he would last for the dismantling. Moreover, it's not like if he dies, the familiars inside her just dissolve, because it mentioned they were parasitic, meaning they were subsisting on her life force, not Zouken's.

As for hayate's remark about Sakura not being Rider's master in Fate and UBW, Nasu shot that in the foot by saying if she knew what Shinji was planning, she would do something about it in that Q&A, so his whole thing about Zero being different from FSN timeline wise seems to be lore damage control, since for all intents and purposes, unless he decides to show exactly beat by beat the differences when there are so many similarities, the two might as well be the same. Rin acting so funny about Sakura, the works. You can't even put a interpretive spin on it since there are so many shout outside and links to other parts of the story.

[Inuhanyou]

You guys are all overthinking this stuff srsly

[noname14]

"Don't think about it too much"

[Tobias]

I haven’t got around to watching the movies actually, anything worth seeing

[Reign]

Archer vs True Assassin in the second movie is good.

[Laserman]

Nothing really exciting happens in the first movie for a long time and those moments don't last that long either.

[yokushi]

I think so far, these are probably the best Fate adaptation we ever got.

[Reign]

Underrated part of the first movie is the opening, seeing Sakura's first interactions with Shirou.

[warellis]

As for hayate's remark about Sakura not being Rider's master in Fate and UBW, Nasu shot that in the foot by saying if she knew what Shinji was planning, she would do something about it in that Q&A, so his whole thing about Zero being different from FSN timeline wise seems to be lore damage control, since for all intents and purposes, unless he decides to show exactly beat by beat the differences when there are so many similarities, the two might as well be the same. Rin acting so funny about Sakura, the works. You can't even put a interpretive spin on it since there are so many shout outside and links to other parts of the story.

How does Sakura being Rider's real Master even in Fate & UBW connect with Zero and lore damage control.

[Tobias]

Wait, what? Sakura wasn’t rider’s master? Dah fuck?

[warellis]

Wait, what? Sakura wasn’t rider’s master? Dah fuck?

Well perhaps "acting Master" is a better term, aince Shinji kind of sorta had control over Rider then?

[forumghost]

Well perhaps "acting Master" is a better term, aince Shinji kind of sorta had control over Rider then?

"Proxy Master" is probably a good term for it. Sakura gave him a fake badge and said "yo Rider listen to this guy" and Rider was like "sure thing bro" but Sakura can just take back her authority at any time.

[Tobias]

"Proxy Master" is probably a good term for it. Sakura gave him a fake badge and said "yo Rider listen to this guy" and Rider was like "sure thing bro" but Sakura can just take back her authority at any time.

Ok see this is my understanding too.

[warellis]

"Proxy Master" is probably a good term for it. Sakura gave him a fake badge and said "yo Rider listen to this guy" and Rider was like "sure thing bro" but Sakura can just take back her authority at any time.

I'm wondering why she didn't take away his authority after Shinji attempted to kill everyone off at the school.

[noname14]

She was also knocked out right?

[warellis]

She was also knocked out right?

For some reason, I thought she wasn't at school on that day.

[TomPen94]

In UBW that's when Rider died right? She wouldn't have had the chance to revoke authority even after the fact.
I'm not sure about Fate though...