Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    I remember something that may add to the datamine theory on Lancer's identity. This is from the book "The Greek Myths" by Robert Graves
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    CAENIS AND CAENEUSPOSEIDON once lay with the Nymph Caenis, daughter of Elatus the Magnesian or, some say, of Coronus the Lapith, and asked her to name a love-gift. ‘Transform me’, she said, ‘into an invulnerable fighter. I am weary of being a woman.’ Poseidon obligingly changed her sex, and she became Caeneus, waging war with such success that the Lapiths soon elected her their king; and she even begot a son, Coronus, whom Heracles killed many years later while fighting for Aegimius the Dorian. Exalted by this new condition, Caeneus set up a spear in the middle of the market-place, where the people congregated, and made them sacrifice to it as if to a god, and honour no other deity whatsoever.
    b. Zeus, hearing of Caeneus’s presumption, instigated the Centaurs to an act of murder. During the wedding of Peirithous they made a sudden attack on her, but she had no difficulty in killing five or six of them, without incurring the slightest wound, because their weapons rebounded harmlessly from her charmed skin. However, the remaining Centaurs beat her on the head with fir logs, until they had driven her under the earth, and then piled a mound of logs above. So Caeneus smothered and died. Presently out flew a sandy-winged bird, which the seer Mopsus, who was present, recognized as her soul; and when they came to bury her, the corpse was again a woman’s.

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    1. This myth has three distinct strands. First, a custom which still prevails in Albania, of girls joining a war-band and dressing in men’s clothes, so that when they are killed in battle the enemy is surprised to discover their sex. Second, a refusal of the Lapiths to accept Hellenic overlordship; the spear set up for worship is likely to have been a may-pole in honour of the New Moon-goddess Caenis, or Elate (‘fir-tree’), to whom the fir was sacred. The Lapiths were then defeated by the Aeolians of Iolcus who, with the help of their allies the Centaurs, subjected them to their god Poseidon, but did not interfere with tribal law. Only, as at Argos, the clan chieftainess will have been obliged to assume an artificial beard to assert her right to act as magistrate and commander: thus Caenis became Caeneus, and Elate became Elatus. A similar change of sex is still announced by the Queen of the South, a joint ruler of the Lozi Kingdom in the Zambesi basin, when she enters the council chamber: ‘I am transformed to a man!’ —but this is because one of her ancestresses usurped a patriarchal throne. Third, the ritual recorded on a black-figured oil jar, in which naked men, armed with mallets, beat an effigy of Mother Earth on head, apparently to release Core, the Spirit of the New Year; ‘Caenis” means ‘new’.
    2. The variety of sandy-winged bird released from the effigy depends on the season at which the rite was performed. If spring, it may have been a cuckoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    Let's be real here, since she's not Valkyrie, then bet dollars to donuts that Valkyrie will be a Saberface.

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    or at least sport an ahoge
    thats not a fair bet if you saw datamine artist for valkyrie

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    If we still consider that these Servants are the ones the Crypters wanted to summon we have until now:

    Chinese Saber: Second Lostbelt (Gotterdamerung)
    Greek? Rider: Third Lostbelt (If so, might not be China)
    Archer Indian God (Kalki?): Fourth Lostbelt
    Divine Spirit Lancer: Fifth Lostbelt
    Assassin Charlotte Corday?: Sixth Lostbelt
    Berserker Orion?: Seventh Lostbelt
    Ashiya Doman seems to be a Wild Card
    Last edited by MoonCell; March 17th, 2018 at 02:18 PM.

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    Or remember his earliest work as an artist
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    This caenis theory is pretty hipster for a Servant identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCell View Post
    If we still consider that these Servants are the ones the Crypters wanted to summon we have until now:

    Chinese Saber: Second Lostbelt (Gotterdamerung)
    Greek? Rider: Third Lostbelt (If so, might not be China)
    Archer Indian God (Kalki?): Fourth Lostbelt
    Divine Spirit Lancer: Fifth Lostbelt
    Assassin Charlotte Corday?: Sixth Lostbelt
    Berserker Orion?: Seventh Lostbelt
    Ashiya Doman seems to be a Wild Card
    most likely not.
    The old Servants introduced in CMs for part 1 were not the main Servants of the series after all
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Oh, I know, it's just in order to keep the idea in mind. Anastasia at least is a main Servant, so the possibility of the others also being so still exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCell View Post
    If we still consider that these Servants are the ones the Crypters wanted to summon we have until now:

    Chinese Saber: Second Lostbelt (Gotterdamerung)
    Greek? Rider: Third Lostbelt (If so, might not be China)
    Archer Indian God (Kalki?): Fourth Lostbelt
    Divine Spirit Lancer: Fifth Lostbelt
    Assassin Charlotte Corday?: Sixth Lostbelt
    Berserker Orion?: Seventh Lostbelt
    Ashiya Doman seems to be a Wild Card
    I thought Doman would have his own Lost Belt since it seems like the Archer and the Berserker are in the same chapter (since they were shown together rather than separately like everyone else).

    Unless I'm completely misremembering the intro from months ago.
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    well, kinda, you can see the silhouettes when the thunder strikes, but no details

    which makes me wonder how the CMs will look like, are they gonna be the same cut from the opening?

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    (also, Lancer is the one making that thunder)
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    Nikiri has what I dub Blessings of the Boobs, see. As long as what his rolling for has two conspicuous mountains, they'll come to him one way or another.
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    Well, fine. Nikiri has this thing called 「我が往くは爆乳の彼方・・・!」
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    GundamFSN. Thank you.

    Just before rolling I said 「我が往くは爆乳の彼方・・・!」

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    I'd been under the impression that these Servants would be the Servants of the enemy Masters, but that's a good point about the old CM Servants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftstar88 View Post
    I thought Doman would have his own Lost Belt since it seems like the Archer and the Berserker are in the same chapter (since they were shown together rather than separately like everyone else).

    Unless I'm completely misremembering the intro from months ago.
    My original guess before revealing that Doman was an Alter-Ego was that both "Orion" and "Kalki" would've been Peperoncino's Servants at one point, with Orion being Archer, but now that we know one of the opening Servants is an Extra Class if we want to give each Crypter the Servant Class Da Vinci said they wanted to summon, "Kalki" and "Orion" have to be from different Lostbelts.

    Of course, this is only if we consider that they still summoned the same Servants they would as Chaldea Masters.

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    Yeah, I'm not sold that they'll all end up with the class they should have. I mean, most probably still will, but I can see one of them getting screwed by Part 1 happening and ending up with something different (aka AE) and another ending up with two servants instead.
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    Talking about masters, I recall someone suggesting they are "Crypters" because they aren't fully human, but cryptids instead, like Beryl Gut being a werewolf (because blood in his mouth, pointed ears and wolf-like Command Seal). If so, what could the others be?

    Basing me off the other Command Seals I'd suggest:

    Kadoc - an Insectoid of sorts (CS reminds me of articulated legs)
    Ophelia - a fairy (Butterfly wing CS)
    Hinako - something draconic (CS looks like a dragon to me)
    Pepe - an Incubus (heart-shaped CS with a kiss mark)
    Kirischtaria - no idea, maybe an alien (his CS looks like an astrolabe to me, but he IS in the astronomy department, so...)
    Beryl - Werewolf (already explained)
    Daybit - an Angel (feathered wing-like CS)

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    I gave in.

    6 tickets, 2 10-rolls.

    2 Scath/Cu, 1 Mikotto, 1 Ayaka, second Gawain, 3 Bedis I was missing to sweet NP5. That's quite an okay result in my book.

    Ah, right. I also rolled Penguin King, but who cares 'bout that...


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    i did a ten roll for MHX yesterday because i would like a 5 star ST Assassin.
    I got two bedis and 2 tamamo CE's and 1 land of shadows CE
    finally my bedi is not np 1
    but yeah shit roll
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Judging from the backgrounds in the opening, it seems that Ashiya Doman will be summoned in the Gotterdamerung Lostbelt.
    Lancer, Archer and Berserker all appear in one Lostbelt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
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    Let us never forget his Valkyrie doujin, yes.
    McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.
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    Single roll for Arthur got me Yagyu.

    It's like last year all over again. And I don't know if I wanna skip the event or not. It'd be nice to clear the shop, but the whole thing just feels eh.

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    And I think I'm the only one excited for Saber Wars.

    Maybe it's because I'm the only one with no Saber Lily.

    And of course, Star of Artoria and purely bloom.

    Tempted to roll the gacha for True Shot, but I'm afraid I'll get another Servant or unrelated CE again.
    Not dealing with it...

    Why even try?


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    I've seen people in this forum spend the GDP of a third world country into Grand Order
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    Yeah, there's a saying that you should strive for perfection knowing full well you won't achieve it. Saber looked at it and said "Hold my Beer"
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    And then all her friends resented her for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayate View Post
    And I think I'm the only one excited for Saber Wars.

    Maybe it's because I'm the only one with no Saber Lily.

    And of course, Star of Artoria and purely bloom.

    Tempted to roll the gacha for True Shot, but I'm afraid I'll get another Servant or unrelated CE again.
    You're not the only one. I'm happy to get my Lily to NP5 as well. Plus a chance for more MHX NP levels is also good news.
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    I don't have her either but I still don't like this event very much.

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