Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[GDB]

Wow, that's actually worse than I thought, as that means even if you could use Skadi's NP multiple times in 3 turns, she wouldn't be able to stack that Crit Damage Up buff multiple times since it should work like any other buff that has charges in that they don't recharge if the buff gets reapplied before the charges are used up.

As for making Quick cards crit really hard, you have to keep in mind that +150% Crit Damage Up on a Quick is barely better than an unbuffed Buster crit. Would be better to have a huge NP gen or Crit star gen bonus tacked on than anything.

Okay, then don't roll for her. I'll still roll for her because I want to use my Quick units again against more than two year old fodder mobs.

[Magikewl]

Quick crits will never hit as hard as busters what the fuck is the point of trying to make quick cards a buster knock-off instead of doing their own thing smh!

[Swiftstar88]

I just want to see how fast Jack can charge her NP gauge with crit support from Skadi.

[Oz1337]

With a 50% Quick Up and an NP charge? Pretty fast I assure you, specially with the ridiculous NP gain she already has.

[GDB]

I'm just waiting to see that third skill. Being a "god" named NP charge gives me hope that it might be something obscene like 80%.

[rxrx]

Maybe just a disappointing 20 at level 1 and 30 at level 10.

[Altaris]

30% seems most likely lol.

[GundamFSN]

I'll give it 50% at least since it's more costly than Waver's.

[Nikiri]

otoh, it's just B+ rank

35%

[Rafflesiac]

She needs a really high base NP generation rate that I just don't see DW giving her if she ends up being AABQQ. We've already seen how DW sets base NP generation rate for NPs that grant Dodge/Invincible.

Hozoin has it good.

Also no heal on Princess Scathach, feels bad feels sad

[manafusion]

Speaking of Skadi, and I don't know if I'm late, most of her skills number as NPC are out in Kazemai

Primordial Rune (6T at lv 10): target-able 50% quick up and 100% crits damage up for Quick cards for 3 turns. AKA Hero's Creation Quick Edition weirdass revision.
Freezing Snowstorm (6T at lvl 10): 30% AOE def down and crit chance down for 3 turns.
Great God's Wisdom (6T at lvl 10): Target-able NP fill I think? No number since enemy I guess.

Passives are TC EX, Item Creation A, and Goddess Core A

Any enemy/ies-targeted skill that isn't guaranteed to land is pretty bad IMO because even though it's a good 30% Def Down, depending on which boss you're facing, you can whiff. That said, seems really good for Quick Servants whose goal is to nuke and move on as opposed to high sustained damage from Buster.

[Swiftstar88]

I still think the crit focus is supposed to support NP spam from quick servants. Which would make sense if the plan really is for quick teams to be nukes rather than sustained damage.

Any enemy/ies-targeted skill that isn't guaranteed to land is pretty bad IMO because even though it's a good 30% Def Down, depending on which boss you're facing, you can whiff. That said, seems really good for Quick Servants whose goal is to nuke and move on as opposed to high sustained damage from Buster.

Where do you see it isn't guarenteed to land any more than any other debuff? I read it as a 30% drop in def, not a 30% chance to land the debuff. Or am I wrong?

[Nikiri]

He means when enemy has debuff resist that will successfully block, which occurs from time to time

otoh it's not affected by buff denial

[GundamFSN]

Kaerazunojin works just fine despite it being not guaranteed proc since day 1.

[Trubo]

Hozoin has it good.

Hozoin is very reliant on brave chaining every turn for that NP generation to sustain his NP buffs, so adding a support unit is typically a demerit unless it's Waver to provide differing amounts of NP gauge.

[Oz1337]

Hozoin is very reliant on brave chaining every turn for that NP generation to sustain his NP buffs, so adding a support unit is typically a demerit unless it's Waver to provide differing amounts of NP gauge.

Hozoin is one of those Servants that shine well solo, but with others he may have some problems keeping his momentum as you may find yourself in situations in which the other Servants will prevent him from continuing to hit hard and get NP as either they will steal his stars or will not let him pull a Brave Combo.

Any enemy/ies-targeted skill that isn't guaranteed to land is pretty bad IMO because even though it's a good 30% Def Down, depending on which boss you're facing, you can whiff. That said, seems really good for Quick Servants whose goal is to nuke and move on as opposed to high sustained damage from Buster.

Yeah, debuffs have a chance to miss because of MR, but saying that they're bad because of this is wrong honestly. That they have a chance to miss is a risk that you have to take, but it's a worthwhile risk because the enemy gets weaker. In an RPG, debuffing enemies is a key element that one must use to win battles in tough fights. Buffs can help, but enemies can still be more dangerous than you even with buffs, so the usage of debuffs is pretty much a necessity, despite the risk of the debuffs not landing.

[asterism42]

[Arha]

Well, went into Surtr knowing what it would be like so dropped bond team for the first time and wrecked him. Only dangerous point was the three turn buff denial but the 2k per turn from Skadi or whatever kept him alive long enough that I could start chaining invul and heals again. Formalcraft Orion and Jeanne and Merlin both with LB Prisma Cosmos so not a terribly fair fight.As for Skadi, from what's been datamined I'm not terribly impressed. Like I don't mind her quick buff not being as strong as Hero Creation but the issue for me is that she provides no healing, meaning if you want to use her on a lengthy fight you have to rely on someone else.

[Rhoia]

Sigurd/Bryn scenes were great, definitely one the highlights of this lostbelt

I want to roll for Sigurd but Anniversary and summer being so close...

[GundamFSN]

After being enlightened in the story thread, I got a sudden surge of impulse to roll the gacha, which was probably a futile effort.

MONSTAH KAADO DOROH

Also got NP2 Anastasia and not Valkyrie but actually me NP2 Parvati on previous rolls.

I don't know what's going on anymore.

I must reunite them. I must.