Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Spinach]

I have a special bond of loyalty to Sumanai. Every time I'm rolling for an SSR if he spooks me it means the SSR will come soon. 100% success rate. He is the herald of good rolls.

[Trubo]

Thank you for those reasons as to why Sumanai is a real unit. However, you forgot to include Sumanai himself in your explanation.

FYI, Stheno's effective base attack is 8086.5, which is only 94.5 lower than Siegfried. And taking the damage formula into account, that isn't really much of a difference at all. Further, her stargen is better than Siegfried's. And despite having an NP drain and male charm as her other two skills, that's still better than a heal and minor NP gain boost. She also has a 50% magic resistance, which while niche, is better than Sumanai's 0% (wow, he doesn't even have the Saber Class base Magic Resistance skill).

Also, Goddess Core grants a flat +300 damage, so her normal cards hit harder than Siegfried's.

Siegfried's NP actually deals damage. Stheno's does nothing.

So he can do some hand wave clearing, big whoop.

Golden rule is an okay-ish skill. Better than Witchcraft IMO. Which is what Stheno has.

Golden Rule sucks ass on Siegfried due to his lack of hits. Sure, it's something, but I'd rather get the instant NP gauge that Bloodsucker provides. Also, NP drain is pretty darn useful.

He doesn't have Magic Resistance, but his heal also removes debuffs.

The only debuffs worth removing are Charm and Stun, which he can't remove.

Of course her stargen is better, she's an Assassin. But she happens to have the worst generic animation for star generation.

Easy Quick Chains.

Siegfried can be used to farm Death Stingers nowadays. Stheno is only ever useful if you want to charmlock a male enemy.

Because AoE Sabers have been the problem to obtain. Lily can do that, and better.

As for charmlocking, that actually seems more useful.

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You'll want to charmlock a male boss once in a blue moon. And for that you'll need a dedicated team.

In most cases I'd much prefer a damaging NP and damaging Servant than just extra damage for two divine Servants.

Finding another person with Euryale and a CE you care about isn't that hard to do.

[hinode]

Let's be honest, the biggest thing that Sumanai has going for him right now is that he's guaranteed to get event bonus for the inevitable Apo event.

[Canon]

A rank tops at that, we all know the Rulers and inevitable Semi will have EX 100% super buff

[Spinach]

I found Arthur's niche. He's the actual god of bond farming on the mountain spot in Babylon with the boars.

h-he's useful I swear

[Rafflesiac]

He saves the world every day!

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Because AoE Sabers have been the problem to obtain. Lily can do that, and better.

Aren't Death Stingers Dragon-types, making Siegfried more useful than usual?

[forumghost]

Aren't Death Stingers Dragon-types, making Siegfried more useful than usual?

Exactly. Even being in his 'niche' only raises his damage output to the same level as Lily's.

[hayate]

fuk u

i'll do it

I'm wishing you all the best in your endeavors and grail Mashu in the end to 100.

While I am on my way to grail Jeanne and the Taneda sisters.

[Spinach]

Today is a productively unproductive day.

[GundamFSN]

fuk u

i'll do it

The road is still far.

[Lily Emilio]

Gratz.

And I just got Tamamo Cat to bond 10 earlier.

[Spinach]

A support list of bond 10, 10/10/10, level 100 5* Servants

I'll get there

[Canon]

As long as there's MLB Lunchtime and Mona Lisa

[Spinach]

Mona Lisa

about that......

[Canon]

I can grudgingly not delete you from my friend list with 1 of 2

But it was a powerful struggle

[Spinach]

I don't even have a Drake to Mona Lisa anyway so tbh it's not like you'd ever use mine anyway

I know I don't use Mona Lisas that aren't on a Drake unless there's no other option

[Canon]

Hell you can put it on George, just gimme dat QP bonus

[Teodor_⑲]

That's right! George is best Mona Lisa keeper. ⇓

[Rafflesiac]

But I don't want to level my Drake yet...

[Qinglong]

I don't actually use the mona lisa servant so it doesn't matter who has it for me


which is why I take Teodor's alot

or ALM