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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    so this is what losing your source of income feels like
    When that guy from DE mentioned that FGO didn't earn that much (for the size of the player-base), that's something to be expected.

    The next step would be no more (or extremely tight ass) quartz handouts for events like conventions, broadcast, 900K download........etc to force player out of F2P. And I can see that's happening already.

    Regarding to summer event, would that be a complete rerun or just a getcha event?
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    does it really not earn that much
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockitten View Post
    When that guy from DE mentioned that FGO didn't earn that much (for the size of the player-base), that's something to be expected.

    The next step would be no more (or extremely tight ass) quartz handouts for events like conventions, broadcast, 900K download........etc to force player out of F2P. And I can see that's happening already.
    Or they could just implement things like Granblue's surprise tickets and more than one fucking guaranteed SSR paid gacha a year. You know, give things that are actually worth spending money on instead of punishing people for not spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockitten View Post
    When that guy from DE mentioned that FGO didn't earn that much (for the size of the player-base), that's something to be expected.

    The next step would be no more (or extremely tight ass) quartz handouts for events like conventions, broadcast, 900K download........etc to force player out of F2P. And I can see that's happening already.

    Regarding to summer event, would that be a complete rerun or just a getcha event?
    Mind showing that interview?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockitten View Post
    When that guy from DE mentioned that FGO didn't earn that much (for the size of the player-base), that's something to be expected.

    The next step would be no more (or extremely tight ass) quartz handouts for events like conventions, broadcast, 900K download........etc to force player out of F2P. And I can see that's happening already.
    I think you are misunderstanding the point of weekly maintenance.

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    Iirc F/GO was like top 3 or top 5 in the top mobage earning list (number 1 was Monster Strike or something). While FEH is like ranked 10 or none at all.

    Guess that wasn't enough for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    Iirc F/GO was like top 3 or top 5 in the top mobage earning list (number 1 was Monster Strike or something). While FEH is like ranked 10 or none at all.

    Guess that wasn't enough for them.
    Literally #2 if I remember right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockitten View Post
    When that guy from DE mentioned that FGO didn't earn that much (for the size of the player-base), that's something to be expected.

    The next step would be no more (or extremely tight ass) quartz handouts for events like conventions, broadcast, 900K download........etc to force player out of F2P. And I can see that's happening already.

    Regarding to summer event, would that be a complete rerun or just a getcha event?
    That... would actually cause the exact opposite of what you'd want to have happen, happen. New players would look at the rates, look at the amount of quartz they can actually get, and then say screw it and leave. Older players would just hoard harder or continue with what they have.

    You have to entice customers to pay. Give them a sample. Give them a reason to choose YOUR product over the competitors' product. When customers get used to not having your product, they won't feel the compulsion to spend in order to roll more. Gacha, as a whole, is gambling. And you can't hook someone on gambling by letting them spin the wheel once. Gotta make them do it over and over until they can't stop.

    Also, this is a huge overreaction to the loss of maintenance quartz. It's less than 1/4th of f2p quartz flow. Even lower if you look at it as f2p roll flow, as then you'd have to add in the 5 monthly tickets and the weekly ticket. That's at least 9 tickets a month, which is equivalent to 27 quartz. So once you add that in, it's approximately a 13.6% reduction in f2p roll flow. Hurts, but it isn't "the end of being f2p" or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockitten View Post
    The next step would be no more (or extremely tight ass) quartz handouts for events like conventions, broadcast, 900K download........etc to force player out of F2P. And I can see that's happening already.
    I don't think you understand 101 of mobage games. Or that pretty much only F/GO handed out in-game currency for announced weekly maintenances that ended on time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KAIZA View Post
    Literally #2 if I remember right.
    It and PAD are in a constant battle for the #1 spot.
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    I smell corporate meddling by Aniplex/Sony... In any case mobile games earn a shit ton of money thanks to low budget development, and yet their business model is regressive in terms of attracting the casual crowd. I don't get Japanese devs... But I guess they can get away with it since Fate is just a huge franchise with lots of whales.

    And tbh FGO is still decent for F2Players especially after Shiokawa came in. People like to diss DW but they really improved alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas View Post
    It and PAD are in a constant battle for the #1 spot.
    Isn't it Monster Strike instead of PAD?
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    No seriously do you guys actually think "not shutting down the game for server maintenance every single week anymore" is some kind of conspiracy against the players, what is this

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    I think the whole game is a conspiracy against the players so logically not shutting it down would be too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Mind showing that interview?
    Need to dug up old posts in reddit, may take a while.

    That was on reddit about a month ago with an interview with "salf river" and Nasu. If my memory serve me correctly, it was the one mentioned nasu want Tsukihime in FGO as well.

    found it!
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    4Gamer: And what about the ARPU (average revenue per user)?

    Shiokawa: I’d say it’s on the low side compared to other titles. I’m pretty sure this is because there are a lot of students and young people among our users. It’s still quite far from the extreme situation of “only a few players spend, but they spend so much that it ends up supporting the entire game” as well.

    4Gamer: Eh? Now that’s unexpected. That’s actually quite healthy isn’t it? I honestly find that hard to believe.

    Nasu: The amount of money spent on the game depends from person to person, but it feels like the younger generation is less resistant to spending money on the game. On the other hand, there are more people who refuse to spend money on the game in their 20s or 30s. Still, there’s a difference in the amount that they can spend, so it all balances out.
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    That sounds like there's a lot of F2Ps rather than they don't earn enough

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    It sounds more like while there are many F2P, there are also enough players spending so it does not become few spend loads to support the game, which is actually healthy for the game's long term gatcha earnings. Besides, if being ranked 2nd and 3rd place is still considered not enough, then all other mobages ranked lower than FGO should close down long ago.

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