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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    Its not though? +2 OC is powerful effect. Problem is its one of 2 things Edison good for (second one being his 2nd skill).
    More importantly, WFD (aside from being the most fabulous NP in the game), is complete shit from gameplay perspective.
    Edison would be totally viable if WFD was some sort of heavy debuff NP (like Waver or Asterios NP) instead of pathetic 15k damage at np level 5
    Technically, it is. NP and skill seal plus Crit Rate Down. Problem here? How effective it is. Against someone like Hijikata, it sure is very effective since it prevents buff-spamming and a turn of NP cast. Ideal case scenario, however, doesn't actually make it usable since you're going to prioritize using it on the turn the enemy can use their NP.


    I propose for WFD to be upgraded. It'll include Atk Down as well and the duration of the NP seal is extended to 2 turns. Well, maybe not the seal part but definitely need the Attack Down part. Makes him really good against high damage and crit damage dealers and provides the team with much needed breathing room to survive attacks.



    EDIT: In regards to OC, +2 isn't all that great except for specific targets. +5% Def Down or Star Generation is pretty crap. That said, there are also some really great targets like Illya or Kin-Rider, both whom benefits extremely well from OC. Speaking of Edison's OC, does it stack with Kiara CE? I can't remember if this was tested.
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    Thinking about it, is there a Servant with an Arts NP that also has an overcharge worth a damn? Off the top of my head, Ryougi? Shuten and Kuro both have pretty garbage OC bonuses.

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    Nursery Rhyme and Waver as well
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    Oh, Def down and NP guage drain. Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
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    Preferably on a Servant that's good.

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    Nursery Rhyme and Waver as well
    Oh those are pretty alright. Merlin also seems like a great choice (fuck this Servant). Tamamo's is also pretty alright.

    Having a hard time finding a variety of offensive ones that're really good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach View Post
    Preferably on a Servant that's good.
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    Do it, you won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach View Post
    Thinking about it, is there a Servant with an Arts NP that also has an overcharge worth a damn? Off the top of my head, Ryougi? Shuten and Kuro both have pretty garbage OC bonuses.
    Does support like hans count

    Cuz his OC effect is actually good

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    Fax Caelestis def down is pretty okay, to say nithing abiut the burn
    Exc Vivian cuz more Np for next turn
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    I hate any skill or NP that is chance-based to work like Imperial Privilege or as mentioned Hans' NP.
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    Archeria a gets moar NP refund for overcharge.

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    Nero Bride's defense down (along with the other three that don't really matter), Robin Hood's increased damage against poisoned enemies, Arturia Archer's NP gain, Da Vinci's NP up... and that's about it as far as offensive Servants go.

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    Oh right, Saberlot has Arts up for a turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach View Post
    Thinking about it, is there a Servant with an Arts NP that also has an overcharge worth a damn? Off the top of my head, Ryougi? Shuten and Kuro both have pretty garbage OC bonuses.
    Blavatsky has 3-turn Defense, Critical Chance and Debuff Resist down, 10%+10 per 100%
    Nitocris has AoE instant Death
    Nightingale reduces NP damage by 50%+12.5% per 100%
    Tamamo charges NP by 25%+6.25% per 100%

    I think that's all

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinode View Post
    Oh right, Saberlot has Arts up for a turn.
    Saberlot's arts up is fixed
    Overchage effect is enemy takes overall extra damage

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    According to the wiki, that's just his NP effect, not his overcharge effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach View Post
    Preferably on a Servant that's good.
    yeah but with a memeteam made of some of the best servants in the game he is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinach View Post
    Thinking about it, is there a Servant with an Arts NP that also has an overcharge worth a damn? Off the top of my head, Ryougi? Shuten and Kuro both have pretty garbage OC bonuses.
    Medea for NP spammability, Helena because the debuffs scale on a +10% level instead of the traditional 5% (though she starts crappier as well, at 10% instead of the usual 20%) and Nightingale because reducing NP Damage to 0% is always fun. Then again, it'll be amazing to even see Nightingale survive that long even with her anti-humanoid buffs active.



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