Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Skittles]

7/10 for musashit sounds about right tbh
no I'm not still bitter about being forced to use her in shimousa why do you ask

[castor212]

actually scratch my prev comment, the EX list is completely true besides Musashi, she should be lower because she is the only one in EX list i dont have

[Altaris]

I think only Zhuge and Merlin should be EX, no one else come close

[larethian]

I'd say Musashi deserves that spot if you're talking about just her one on one duelling capability. She doesn't work amazingly well in teams, though- unless the team's focused on supporting her, she's almost better off alone, and she has absolutely nothing that helps any teammates, but then again if you added a taunt or star gen/attraction to her kit she'd be even more broken than Waver/Merlin, in a way.

Musashi's EX for all the reasons others have mentioned but not yours.

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I would rank Karna > Tamamo Lancer > Scathach. I would put Karna at EX. Actually, Tamamo Lancer is pretty similar to Scathach in rank for me, but just Tamamo being better at filling her NP gauge will make her a little better for me.
Eknidu is really good. He's definitely no worse than Bryn. If he gets NP interlude, he would even be better. IMO. I really want to have him in 'A' even. As I mentioned, there are really a lot of strong lancers in the game.

I also don't think Saber is worse than Mordred. They both have a shitty instinct.

I just realized both Illya and Sanzou got NP interludes. I would put them both at A myself, or at least a B+. Illya has better damage output and Sanzou has a better kit for NP fills. I don't know how the "more effective ignore defense) mechanic works though. I always thought ignore defense is just ignore defense. No experience with Nero caster.

No experience with the alter egoes so can't speak for them.

[jennajayfeather]

I think only Zhuge and Merlin should be EX, no one else come close

I agree. Or put them in their own special category.

[Rafflesiac]

My only gripe with Musashi and Shimosa is that I Bond 10'd my Musashi a singularity early. Whoops.

I also don't think Saber is worse than Mordred. They both have a shitty instinct.

Mordred is literally Saber, but better, and thus deserves to be in a higher tier.

[Bobin]

I'm guessing EX is for the indomitable art team staples and all-around damage dealers capable of disregarding class disadvantages with sheer performance.

[asterism42]

Mordred is literally Saber, but better

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[hayate]

Musashi's a lot less dependent on outside factors. Scathach wants a boss to be divine or undead, Jack wants a boss to be female (not that that's hard in a waifu game), to work to their fullest potential. Musashi just needs them to not be holding a bow. Or sitting in one, as the case may be.

Yep, and so is Okita.

She's downgraded to Rank A due to the reign of the gorilla deck if I'm not mistaken.

Mordred is literally Saber, but better, and thus deserves to be in a higher tier.

I thought that was Saber Alter. But then I remembered that she is a 4* that outdamages the vanilla Saber.

[Satehi]

Uh... no?

They ranked Musashi at 7 point
Honestly it's kinda insulting lol

And Jeanne is at 9.5 despite her 2 very situational skills. Then I read the comments and found out that the writer *just* got Jeanne, so the bias is strong on that one.

Musashi is good but not that good.

As you can see by watching Pai's 100+ turn solo adventures Jeanne is pretty strong for challenging content, which if I'm not mistaken is the criteria the list uses, not farming.

[Rafflesiac]

Musashi is good but not that good.

As you can see by watching Pai's 100+ turn solo adventures Jeanne is pretty strong for challenging content, which if I'm not mistaken is the criteria the list uses, not farming.

TBF soloing is different than team play, and if you have Jeanne as the sole support unless you're running an Arts NP fill team you're not seeing her NP go up in time every time, especially if you're prioritizing your damage dealer's cards.

[Satehi]

TBF soloing is different than team play, and if you have Jeanne as the sole support unless you're running an Arts NP fill team you're not seeing her NP go up in time every time, especially if you're prioritizing your damage dealer's cards.

Yeah but if you're taking Jeanne you obviously aren't prioritizing damage.

[Rafflesiac]

Yeah, because you're forced not to.

[Aozaki-desu]

Mordred is a farming unit so for average player who cannot run triple (lb) kaleidos she would undenibly see more use than vanilla Saber
i also feel like i would address several comments by making separate A+ category and putting some servants from A rank there who perform slightly better than others but i specifically decided not to do that because slight dfferences in performance dont matter to me as much

[Magikewl]

I think i would rather let everyone die than go over 100 turns

[Aozaki-desu]

Figures. Like aren't there different "tier lists" out there? What makes this one any different?

nothing
its just opinions and discussion generator
for funsies y'know?

[Rafflesiac]

I think i would rather let everyone die than go over 100 turns

You haven't truly played FGO if you haven't had a battle last over 100 turns.

Especially if you could've cleared the battle in 30 turns or less.

[Qinglong]

I'm still not repeating the turn count for Sword or Death Kiara again anytime soon

[GundamFSN]

I might as well have ran over 100 turns in simulation for having to savesum KH for 5 hours.

[Rafflesiac]

I'm gonna miss you, Sparkiller ;_;7