Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[ALM]

Lol nope, I need my increased event drops.

Usually by the time I get the 5* ce, I've maxed the 4* and 3* wtf.

[Neir]

That'd be pretty impressive if she manages to beat out Fran, before considering level 100 shenanigans.

is fran really that good? what's her overcharge again?

[Arha]

is fran really that good? what's her overcharge again?

It's just crit down. She hits hard because she's a Berserker with up to 30% NP up, a defense down skill and 900% base NP rather than 800 after interlude.

[Aozaki-desu]

Cha-Cha NP5 with +50 bond CE and max atk fou does 29.7k damage from raw stats alone
this doesnt include any passive or active skill bonuses

thats rank #14 right there
if she gets good set of buffs from skills, she should be able to make rank #2 easily (fran is only 38.8k)

[Neir]

wow, i've never actually used her, even though I have her at np2 or 3

NP up skill, i assume, not NP effect

[Arha]

Third skill is Overload, 20-30% NP damage up. Second is Lament of the Falsely Living, 20-30% defense down single target + stun.

And yeah, she's good for clearing waves quickly. I was a bit annoyed at rolling her when going for Mordred but I actually use her a fair amount now. Probably more than Herk, who is mostly just in my team for bond points.

[Kotonoha]

I despise the deliberately cutesy thing as a rule, but she just irritates me soooo much even aside from that.

Not a fan of puns?

[manafusion]

This endeared her to me instantly tbh

Would be an even stronger joke if she's voiced by the same VA as Yaya.

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It's just crit down. She hits hard because she's a Berserker with up to 30% NP up, a defense down skill and 900% base NP rather than 800 after interlude.

She also has a higher non-standard NP damage values IIRC. Yeap, 700% versus 600% on base. Upgraded to 900% at NP1 so she hits really really hard.

[larethian]

Thanks for the replies btw.

[Trubo]

is fran really that good? what's her overcharge again?

Lancelot NP1 NP modifier = 600% pre-interlude

Tamamo Cat NP1 NP modifier = 600% pre-interlude, 800% post-interlude

Fran NP1 NP modifier = 700% pre-interlude, 900% post-interlude

Edit: As has been pointed out, I made a mistake with Lancelot's modifier. Partly because of thinking NP1 damage is half of NP5, and also thinking that both Tamamo Cat and Fran had a bonus on their NPs since they suffer demerits.

[manafusion]

Lancelot NP1 NP modifier = 500% pre-interlude

Tamamo Cat NP1 NP modifier = 600% pre-interlude, 800% post-interlude

Fran NP1 NP modifier = 700% pre-interlude, 900% post-interlude

Oh wow. I knew Lancelot was bad in NP damage but I totally forgot that his NP is actually below base.

[R.Lock]

In other words, Fran's the only Servant who beats Alters' NP multiplier on AoE NP.

[Aozaki-desu]

https://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/svtData.html?no=48

Lancelot NP is 600% the fuck yall talking about

[castor212]

Lancelot NP1 NP modifier = 500% pre-interlude

Tamamo Cat NP1 NP modifier = 600% pre-interlude, 800% post-interlude

Fran NP1 NP modifier = 700% pre-interlude, 900% post-interlude

???
Lancelot is 600% pre interlude

[Neir]

https://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/svtData.html?no=48

Lancelot NP is 600% the fuck yall talking about

Further proof that trubo just makes up numbers and no one questions it because they don't give a shit

[R.Lock]

Can confirm, don't give a shit about Mr.OnlyHitsHardWithWhaleSetup.

[GDB]

Lancelot NP1 NP modifier = 500% pre-interlude

Tamamo Cat NP1 NP modifier = 600% pre-interlude, 800% post-interlude

Fran NP1 NP modifier = 700% pre-interlude, 900% post-interlude

Didn't Lancelot get knocked down even further when they fixed the alignment square or whatever? At least as far as farming hands goes.

[Rafflesiac]

Lancelot's 10% weaker against hands, yes.

[Oz1337]

Oh wow, I come back and see DW trolled us with the timing of GudaGuda 2. Not that I complain. Also, finally free Berserker, about goddamn time.

[Trubo]

Sorry, for some reason I was thinking NP1 was half NP5 modifier.

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Didn't Lancelot get knocked down even further when they fixed the alignment square or whatever? At least as far as farming hands goes.

Hands are Sky attribute, so Earth attributes do 10% less damage than normal. This also reduced Tamamo Cat's damage, but her Monstrous Strength can counteract that reduction.

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As for more Lancelot stuff, a NP interlude doesn't solve the main issue of not having a good self buff for damage. Tamamo Cat and Fran can get away with less Attack because their buffs are stronger than a piddling 10% Attack Up.