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    And that's about it for interludes I can reasonably accomplish without using apples. Finished Shuten's and the lesbians' second interlude. Can probably get my last Caster to max level before maintenance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Just be lucky like me and get six stacks of crit up from the bond CE and tell me who has better crits then
    I am lucky unlike you because I just rolled Ishtar instead during the 9M campaign or whatever when I only had about sixty quartz.

    Anyway, about the tiers, I'd say Melt is probably only a B. Alter Egos only get a 50% boost and still take full damage. She's also a Quick based Servant and her overcharge effect is pretty unhelpful with its low values and only activating after damage. It takes both luck and good support for her to be able to NP spam and make good use of it. She's functional, but as a Quick Servant in a Buster metagame she feels left behind to me. The scaling on Melt Virus also disappoints me since it never gets better offensively.

    I'm not sure Ilya should be as high as she is. She barely does more than Xuanzang over the long term but offers significantly less to the party, which to me means she's less valuable and should probably drop a tier. Damage based Casters just aren't a good niche to be in and I don't feel like she really merits her current position at B. I guess they could both be in the same tier without them being considered equally strong, though.
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    Mecha Eli-chan's second skill is a straight up negative version of existing skills and her third purges invincibility and dodge


    that is kinda bad
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    2Trubo cuz i'm tired of quoting:
    >Okita-Altera
    Okita is 50% quick up and 50% crit up BNPB against 30% atk up for Altera's NPBB. Altera is okay in this situation in regards to damage.
    >Saber Archer
    in the case where you dont run either Waver or Tamamo your result will be lackluster and you lose comparision by default
    >Jeanne
    Waver offers you offence and defence. Tamamo can provide enough healing and other things if someone else provides defence. Jeanne offers you defence only and you still need more.
    >Melt
    I would be first to agree that Alter Ego is a cheat class but that does not invalidate Melt. Also, while Mecha Eli might be good there is no reason why her being good will make Melt worse. They do different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qinglong View Post
    Mecha Eli-chan's second skill is a straight up negative version of existing skills and her third purges invincibility and dodge


    that is kinda bad
    Her third skill removes defense buffs, not invincibility and dodge. It's still pretty BS because her first skill does give her a reasonable defense buff plus stars per turn, so you have to sacrifice that defense buff for a single turn of crits and NP up, something that other Servants aren't forced to except Hundred Face Hassan, which is her worst skill to the surprise of nobody.
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    When Babylonia came out, I got a second Gorgon Avenger. Is she worth NP2ing? I was thinking of using her for 40AP EXP/Mana Prism farming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    To get the most out of her first skill though, you have to be using a crit team setup. God Slayer is nice when there's Undead or Divine to hit, but I'm having trouble thinking of hard content bosses that had either of those traits, weren't Sabers, and Scathach was actually a good choice to bring.
    NeroFes Gil and the AlterEgos in CCC off the top of my head

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    Scathach was a staple for a lot of Rashomon teams as well.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    Her third skill removes defense buffs, not invincibility and dodge. It's still pretty BS because her first skill does give her a reasonable defense buff plus stars per turn, so you have to sacrifice that defense buff for a single turn of crits and NP up, something that other Servants aren't forced to except Hundred Face Hassan, which is her worst skill to the surprise of nobody.
    I tested it for a second time just now just to be sure I didn't make a mistake, it purged invincibility from Merlin's illusion
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    Purging defense buffs seems like the only real issue, though, since those often last more than one turn. Otherwise you can just use her third skill and then give her invul/evade from Merlin/Jeanne/whatever.
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    Are you responding to me or is that a failed post merge? Because that doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    i delivered
    i got tired halfway through of writing descriptions and some of them are p uninspired but whatever i'll do it when i feel like it
    Would there be explanationa whats A rank club is elite and deserve rhe A alphabet, and why is X servant deserve mempership there
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    nothing makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arha View Post
    Are you responding to me or is that a failed post merge? Because that doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
    yes that was a failed post merge

    I got distracted at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qinglong View Post
    I tested it for a second time just now just to be sure I didn't make a mistake, it purged invincibility from Merlin's illusion
    Oh wow, that's true! I thought it only worked for defense buffs, I didn't know it also included those two.

    Fortunately it's not as bad as with defense buffs since you can just use them after the skill, but for defense buff it's an issue because it shortens their duration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Would there be explanationa whats A rank club is elite and deserve rhe A alphabet, and why is X servant deserve mempership there
    click on pictures to find out

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    No i mean a description of whats A rank to begin with, rather than whats Servant om A rank can do

    Unless i miss a clickable link there
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    nothing makes sense

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    yes no maybe i dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    Seeing Aozaki's Tier List kinda make me want to do one of my own
    Do it!! I'd like to see how it compares.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    >Saber Archer
    in the case where you dont run either Waver or Tamamo your result will be lackluster and you lose comparision by default
    Honestly, as long as I run Saber Archer in an Arts-oriented team, I haven't had a problem with her NP gen.

    But I think we also established that mine doesn't count, so eh.
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    Also just a personal experiemce input

    Tho like i said not knowing exactly the alphabet requirement makes things ambigue, but jealter and holmes doesnt feel like EX material compared tonthe other guys, due to needing the right kind of support to do their best.
    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    nothing makes sense

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    Honestly I think Appmedia's list is more accurate.

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    What's the point of tier lists?
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