Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[kotelo]

But everybody wanted Liz back when the game started, her being the only gold Lancer. I never rolled Liz.

[Mazyrian]

That's what the Gil giveaway was for

[Kareshy]

Which 4* lancers are there in the first place? Li, Artoria Alter, Eliza, Fionn and Ana? Li and Artoria are story locked and from what I've read I dunno if Ana is better than Eliza, so she might be the best rollable 4* Lancer
Also she's serviceable, and sadistic charisma is good

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An NP interlude would be neat though

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One problem she has is that with the usual Lancer card set of QQABB she has trouble getting NP charge

Vlad III also, and as far as I can see/consider them he's one of the best.

[Mazyrian]

Yeah, forgot about him huh

[Swiftstar88]

Liz is the worst Gold Lancer barring Fionn. She's trash-tier

As someone with an np3 Eliza, I can safely say that her np is shit. Skills on the other hand are pretty good so she's certainly worth fielding.

The point of Liz is her skills, not her NP. What offensive servant can't benefit from an attack boost (especially with how many female servants you can field with her) and a defense down to the opponent? BC is icing on the cake in case the battle goes long and you have the chance to use her skills again.

[Rafflesiac]

One problem she has is that with the usual Lancer card set of QQABB she has trouble getting NP charge

You'd think that, but she also has the better than usual NP gain to go with it so her Quicks are remarkably serviceable.

[Rhoia]

So, when did DW change Bryn's np bonus?

According to this http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/svtData.html?no=88
it now increases star gen by 30% (it used to be 3%)

[Mcjon01]

The point of Liz is her skills, not her NP. What offensive servant can't benefit from an attack boost (especially with how many female servants you can field with her) and a defense down to the opponent? BC is icing on the cake in case the battle goes long and you have the chance to use her skills again.

Stockholm-like posting detected

[Mr.Obsidian]

Ah I also forgot Euryale in that list, apologies folks. Also unsure how often I get the currency for the rolls at the far right but I decided to roll twice and I got the Regend in the first roll then Spartacus in the second roll. (Knowing my luck I probably did something very wrong.)

[Trubo]

Haha! My friend said that too. I really think his third skill should've just been NP charge like Saberlot.

Seriously, his "Np gain increase" skill is garbage. That one arts card, even with that skill, gets 10~15% on a lucky occasion. Wtf. Its sad, since his NP is really good, even at NP 1

Other than the instant stars, nah. Following numbers are minimum damage to an exp hand, self-buffed only. Golds are at NP1, non-golds at NP5, all have NP+skill interlude and level 10 skills.

Lancelot (Berserker)
[(10477+990)*6*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.1] = 18611

Tamamo Cat
[(9026+990)*8*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 25616

Fran
[(9441+990)*9*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 30012

Darius
[(7608+990)*6*1.5*1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 31398

Kiyohime
[(6644+990)*5*1.5*1.42*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23] = 24991

Erik (can't remember if he benefits from Attack Up before or after NP)
[(6290+990)*5*1.5**1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 21189

Spartacus
[(5073+990)*5*1.5*1.52*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 25968


NP2 Lancelot (Berserker) though can reliably kill hands, clocking in at 24815 damage.

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My first ten roll IMO seemed pretty fruitful Camilla,Darius,Elizabeth,and Proto-Cu

Not bad, but a better tutorial 10 roll will have Herk and Emiya/Liz if you get two SR. Even better is picking up Herk, Emiya, and Liz. Other SR Servants that you could get, eh.

so after rolling Illya I got bunch of mom's CE.

should I put Illya with black grail?

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Ah I also forgot Euryale in that list, apologies folks. Also unsure how often I get the currency for the rolls at the far right but I decided to roll twice and I got the Regend in the first roll then Spartacus in the second roll. (Knowing my luck I probably did something very wrong.)

Those are Friend Points (FP). You get 25 every time you use a friend's Servant or a friend uses one of your Servants, 10 for a random person's or for a random person using one of your Servants, and 200 whenever you use a story support. Dunno if it's still in the rare prism shop, but there is a CE that increases the amount of FP by 75 per battle if you have it equipped on any of your Servants that you take to the battle (can't stack this bonus by using your own and a support's). You also get some from login bonuses and things like event raffles.

Only reason to stock up on FP is to try and roll an event's R gacha CE, as DW has started to put that into the FP gacha.

[Mr.Obsidian]

don't use alternate accounts, only losers do that.

my fc is 102 961 469


pick your favorite waifu/husbando, and raise them lovingly. do not worry too much about gameplay.

Added you

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[Rafflesiac]

Also on the off chance that you roll a Servant with a black border and a flaming skull icon from the FP gacha, keep him. That would be Angra Mainyu, an exceedingly rare Servant.

[Mr.Obsidian]

Other than the instant stars, nah. Following numbers are minimum damage to an exp hand, self-buffed only. Golds are at NP1, non-golds at NP5, all have NP+skill interlude and level 10 skills.

Lancelot (Berserker)
[(10477+990)*6*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.1] = 18611

Tamamo Cat
[(9026+990)*8*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 25616

Fran
[(9441+990)*9*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 30012

Darius
[(7608+990)*6*1.5*1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 31398

Kiyohime
[(6644+990)*5*1.5*1.42*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23] = 24991

Erik (can't remember if he benefits from Attack Up before or after NP)
[(6290+990)*5*1.5**1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 21189

Spartacus
[(5073+990)*5*1.5*1.52*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 25968


NP2 Lancelot (Berserker) though can reliably kill hands, clocking in at 24815 damage.

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Not bad, but a better tutorial 10 roll will have Herk and Emiya/Liz if you get two SR. Even better is picking up Herk, Emiya, and Liz. Other SR Servants that you could get, eh.



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Those are Friend Points (FP). You get 25 every time you use a friend's Servant or a friend uses one of your Servants, 10 for a random person's or for a random person using one of your Servants, and 200 whenever you use a story support. Dunno if it's still in the rare prism shop, but there is a CE that increases the amount of FP by 75 per battle if you have it equipped on any of your Servants that you take to the battle (can't stack this bonus by using your own and a support's). You also get some from login bonuses and things like event raffles.

Only reason to stock up on FP is to try and roll an event's R gacha CE, as DW has started to put that into the FP gacha.

ah ok cool thanks

[Trubo]

Though said Servant is only used for memes or to hold CEs during events since he's like a SR Servant in terms of getting quartz for bond levels 6 through 9.

[Mr.Obsidian]

Also on the off chance that you roll a Servant with a black border and a flaming skull icon from the FP gacha, keep him. That would be Angra Mainyu, an exceedingly rare Servant.

Is he good? Or is it more of a status symbol?

[Swiftstar88]

Stockholm-like posting detected

If it's Liz, I don't mind.

Ah I also forgot Euryale in that list, apologies folks. Also unsure how often I get the currency for the rolls at the far right but I decided to roll twice and I got the Regend in the first roll then Spartacus in the second roll. (Knowing my luck I probably did something very wrong.)

Euryale is amazing, definitely keep her around!

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Cleaver, I approve. Took me a second to get it.

[QUOTE=Trubo;2587044Those are Friend Points (FP). You get 25 every time you use a friend's Servant or a friend uses one of your Servants, 10 for a random person's or for a random person using one of your Servants, and 200 whenever you use a story support. Dunno if it's still in the rare prism shop, but there is a CE that increases the amount of FP by 75 per battle if you have it equipped on any of your Servants that you take to the battle (can't stack this bonus by using your own and a support's). You also get some from login bonuses and things like event raffles.

Only reason to stock up on FP is to try and roll an event's R gacha CE, as DW has started to put that into the FP gacha.[/QUOTE]

I also use the FP gacha for fou's.

[Kareshy]

Is he good? Or is it more of a status symbol?

Status. Statistically he has the strength of a low rarity servant, but he's about as rare as a 5*.

[Trubo]

Status. Statistically he has the strength of a low rarity servant, but he's about as rare as a 5*.

Lol

[GundamFSN]

Angra Mainyu should give 10 Blank Graph when burned.

Dude is abnormally rare.

[Rafflesiac]

And there's Cu Alter's only relevant skill leveled.

Now for 74 million QP for Cleo... ;_;