Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Waaaaaaaayyyy too little damage. I could if you want but I don't think you can go double carp/Martha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    THIS ISNT WORKING AAAAAAAAA

    change of strat

    Do you guys mind if you set carp/martha CE on merlin instead?

    I was never able to get both Buster card crit with just 40 stars reeeeee
    Why not just stall? :shrug:



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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    THIS ISNT WORKING AAAAAAAAA

    change of strat

    Do you guys mind if you set carp/martha CE on merlin instead?

    I was never able to get both Buster card crit with just 40 stars reeeeee
    Sure, I'll put Carp up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Waaaaaaaayyyy too little damage. I could if you want but I don't think you can go double carp/Martha.
    If you're talking about the Kingprotea fight, that excel sheet I posted earlier is assuming that 2x mlb Golden Carps are being used for 40 stars, with the exceptions of Beowulf (no star CEs), Nobu (Berserker) (1x mlb Golden Carp), and Hijikata (1x mlb Golden Carp).

    Speaking of which, caught some minor typos in there. Forgot to factor in the Merlin bond 10 CE's Crit Damage Up on Nobu (Berserker) and Hijikata. While Nobu (Berserker) was already doing fine, this lets Hijikata have a reasonable expectation of clearing it now.
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    It's probably because I was trying it with Lancelot's star absorb/crit skills and the triple Buster roll but it's hell to draw the 3 Buster hand turn one

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    Unless you are trying for OTK, just use a stall team till about 45 turns and you can finish off KP in one go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    It's probably because I was trying it with Lancelot's star absorb/crit skills and the triple Buster roll but it's hell to draw the 3 Buster hand turn one
    I mean, I guess I could check to see if triple Buster card crits do more damage than NPBB.
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    Could you simulate MLB knights pride and Victor from the moon as well? Versus would probably still be better but those might be better than Foundat

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    Level 80 Knight's Pride is literally worse Versus because they're both mixed Attack Up but Knight's Pride gives a lower Crit Damage Up/Power Up modifier for not even double the Attack stat of a level 20 Versus. Victor from the Moon won't matter unless it's 100, and that only increases total damage by ~3k.

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    And looking at the results, the only triple Buster Berserker that can actually BBB crit Kingprotea to death is a level 100 2k Attack Four Herk (393 Versus), assuming 2x mlb Golden Carp/Martha star CE + Merlin Bond 10.

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    Granted, I haven't looked at Asterios, Caligula, and Xiang yet, so maybe they can. Lancelot (Berserker) is a worse version of Beowulf in this case, and Beowulf can't do it.
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    Yeah, only Herk can BBB crit Kingprotea on turn 1 and win. At least, assuming level 20 Versus.
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    Trubo, is your versus maxed?

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    Is Herk's 31+36% self buff really that much better than Lancelot's 50% crit buff especially when you factor in that Lancelot can get the extra 10+15% boost from the extra Merlin bond CE due to his ability to absorb stars?

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    it's an attribute thing I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Trubo, is your versus maxed?
    Level 20 since I've only got the one copy from that free White Day CE thing. If you want to edit the excel file to see what a mlb Versus can do, grab it from here.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...O_options.xlsx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Is Herk's 31+36% self buff really that much better than Lancelot's 50% crit buff especially when you factor in that Lancelot can get the extra 10+15% boost from the extra Merlin bond CE due to his ability to absorb stars?
    It's a combination of better overall Attack Up + Crit Damage Up and attribute advantage. Free 10% damage sure helps.
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    So, from what I check now compared to this morning, Ibargin requires a CS. That being said, I only have Fondant at 15, so now I'm not sure if the "try NPBB chain on turn 1, then CS for another NP on turn 2" will work anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAIZA View Post
    So, from what I check now compared to this morning, Ibargin requires a CS. That being said, I only have Fondant at 15, so now I'm not sure if the "try NPBB chain on turn 1, then CS for another NP on turn 2" will work anymore.
    She always needed a CS since she was listed as using Versus. If you're using Fondant instead, you'll need a CS for the 2nd NP. That excel sheet I posted is something you can edit to double check.

    Speaking of which, honorable mention to Caligula. Dude hits like a bat out of hell. If only he had a Crit Damage Up too.
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    Alas, but anyone can have a crit up with Merlin.

    if using a female damage dealer couldn’t Liz buff damage by s lot. I guess torture techniques could fail to apply however.

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    Dropping crit buffs for additional 30-40% attack up is not very advisable.


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