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    so after rolling Illya I got bunch of mom's CE.

    should I put Illya with black grail?
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    As someone with an np3 Eliza, I can safely say that her np is shit. Skills on the other hand are pretty good so she's certainly worth fielding.
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    Which 4* lancers are there in the first place? Li, Artoria Alter, Eliza, Fionn and Ana? Li and Artoria are story locked and from what I've read I dunno if Ana is better than Eliza, so she might be the best rollable 4* Lancer
    Also she's serviceable, and sadistic charisma is good

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    An NP interlude would be neat though

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    One problem she has is that with the usual Lancer card set of QQABB she has trouble getting NP charge
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    But everybody wanted Liz back when the game started, her being the only gold Lancer. I never rolled Liz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazyrian View Post
    Which 4* lancers are there in the first place? Li, Artoria Alter, Eliza, Fionn and Ana? Li and Artoria are story locked and from what I've read I dunno if Ana is better than Eliza, so she might be the best rollable 4* Lancer
    Also she's serviceable, and sadistic charisma is good

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    An NP interlude would be neat though

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    One problem she has is that with the usual Lancer card set of QQABB she has trouble getting NP charge
    Vlad III also, and as far as I can see/consider them he's one of the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    Liz is the worst Gold Lancer barring Fionn. She's trash-tier
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    As someone with an np3 Eliza, I can safely say that her np is shit. Skills on the other hand are pretty good so she's certainly worth fielding.
    The point of Liz is her skills, not her NP. What offensive servant can't benefit from an attack boost (especially with how many female servants you can field with her) and a defense down to the opponent? BC is icing on the cake in case the battle goes long and you have the chance to use her skills again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazyrian View Post
    One problem she has is that with the usual Lancer card set of QQABB she has trouble getting NP charge
    You'd think that, but she also has the better than usual NP gain to go with it so her Quicks are remarkably serviceable.
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    So, when did DW change Bryn's np bonus?

    According to this http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/svtData.html?no=88
    it now increases star gen by 30% (it used to be 3%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftstar88 View Post
    The point of Liz is her skills, not her NP. What offensive servant can't benefit from an attack boost (especially with how many female servants you can field with her) and a defense down to the opponent? BC is icing on the cake in case the battle goes long and you have the chance to use her skills again.
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    Ah I also forgot Euryale in that list, apologies folks. Also unsure how often I get the currency for the rolls at the far right but I decided to roll twice and I got the Regend in the first roll then Spartacus in the second roll. (Knowing my luck I probably did something very wrong.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TagumonYatsuray View Post
    Haha! My friend said that too. I really think his third skill should've just been NP charge like Saberlot.

    Seriously, his "Np gain increase" skill is garbage. That one arts card, even with that skill, gets 10~15% on a lucky occasion. Wtf. Its sad, since his NP is really good, even at NP 1
    Other than the instant stars, nah. Following numbers are minimum damage to an exp hand, self-buffed only. Golds are at NP1, non-golds at NP5, all have NP+skill interlude and level 10 skills.

    Lancelot (Berserker)
    [(10477+990)*6*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.1] = 18611

    Tamamo Cat
    [(9026+990)*8*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 25616

    Fran
    [(9441+990)*9*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 30012

    Darius
    [(7608+990)*6*1.5*1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 31398

    Kiyohime
    [(6644+990)*5*1.5*1.42*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23] = 24991

    Erik (can't remember if he benefits from Attack Up before or after NP)
    [(6290+990)*5*1.5**1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 21189

    Spartacus
    [(5073+990)*5*1.5*1.52*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 25968


    NP2 Lancelot (Berserker) though can reliably kill hands, clocking in at 24815 damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Obsidian View Post
    My first ten roll IMO seemed pretty fruitful Camilla,Darius,Elizabeth,and Proto-Cu
    Not bad, but a better tutorial 10 roll will have Herk and Emiya/Liz if you get two SR. Even better is picking up Herk, Emiya, and Liz. Other SR Servants that you could get, eh.

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    so after rolling Illya I got bunch of mom's CE.

    should I put Illya with black grail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Obsidian View Post
    Ah I also forgot Euryale in that list, apologies folks. Also unsure how often I get the currency for the rolls at the far right but I decided to roll twice and I got the Regend in the first roll then Spartacus in the second roll. (Knowing my luck I probably did something very wrong.)
    Those are Friend Points (FP). You get 25 every time you use a friend's Servant or a friend uses one of your Servants, 10 for a random person's or for a random person using one of your Servants, and 200 whenever you use a story support. Dunno if it's still in the rare prism shop, but there is a CE that increases the amount of FP by 75 per battle if you have it equipped on any of your Servants that you take to the battle (can't stack this bonus by using your own and a support's). You also get some from login bonuses and things like event raffles.

    Only reason to stock up on FP is to try and roll an event's R gacha CE, as DW has started to put that into the FP gacha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neir View Post
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    Also on the off chance that you roll a Servant with a black border and a flaming skull icon from the FP gacha, keep him. That would be Angra Mainyu, an exceedingly rare Servant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Other than the instant stars, nah. Following numbers are minimum damage to an exp hand, self-buffed only. Golds are at NP1, non-golds at NP5, all have NP+skill interlude and level 10 skills.

    Lancelot (Berserker)
    [(10477+990)*6*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.1] = 18611

    Tamamo Cat
    [(9026+990)*8*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 25616

    Fran
    [(9441+990)*9*0.8*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23*1.3] = 30012

    Darius
    [(7608+990)*6*1.5*1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 31398

    Kiyohime
    [(6644+990)*5*1.5*1.42*1.1*1.5*0.9*0.9*0.23] = 24991

    Erik (can't remember if he benefits from Attack Up before or after NP)
    [(6290+990)*5*1.5**1.08*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 21189

    Spartacus
    [(5073+990)*5*1.5*1.52*1.1*1.5*1.1*0.9*0.23] = 25968


    NP2 Lancelot (Berserker) though can reliably kill hands, clocking in at 24815 damage.

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    Not bad, but a better tutorial 10 roll will have Herk and Emiya/Liz if you get two SR. Even better is picking up Herk, Emiya, and Liz. Other SR Servants that you could get, eh.



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    Those are Friend Points (FP). You get 25 every time you use a friend's Servant or a friend uses one of your Servants, 10 for a random person's or for a random person using one of your Servants, and 200 whenever you use a story support. Dunno if it's still in the rare prism shop, but there is a CE that increases the amount of FP by 75 per battle if you have it equipped on any of your Servants that you take to the battle (can't stack this bonus by using your own and a support's). You also get some from login bonuses and things like event raffles.

    Only reason to stock up on FP is to try and roll an event's R gacha CE, as DW has started to put that into the FP gacha.
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    Though said Servant is only used for memes or to hold CEs during events since he's like a SR Servant in terms of getting quartz for bond levels 6 through 9.
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Also on the off chance that you roll a Servant with a black border and a flaming skull icon from the FP gacha, keep him. That would be Angra Mainyu, an exceedingly rare Servant.
    Is he good? Or is it more of a status symbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
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    If it's Liz, I don't mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Obsidian View Post
    Ah I also forgot Euryale in that list, apologies folks. Also unsure how often I get the currency for the rolls at the far right but I decided to roll twice and I got the Regend in the first roll then Spartacus in the second roll. (Knowing my luck I probably did something very wrong.)
    Euryale is amazing, definitely keep her around!

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    [QUOTE=Trubo;2587044Those are Friend Points (FP). You get 25 every time you use a friend's Servant or a friend uses one of your Servants, 10 for a random person's or for a random person using one of your Servants, and 200 whenever you use a story support. Dunno if it's still in the rare prism shop, but there is a CE that increases the amount of FP by 75 per battle if you have it equipped on any of your Servants that you take to the battle (can't stack this bonus by using your own and a support's). You also get some from login bonuses and things like event raffles.

    Only reason to stock up on FP is to try and roll an event's R gacha CE, as DW has started to put that into the FP gacha.[/QUOTE]

    I also use the FP gacha for fou's.
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