So is there a synopsis of this last volume then? I'm just really curious about some stuff in the spoiler boxes and want to know how they happened.
So is there a synopsis of this last volume then? I'm just really curious about some stuff in the spoiler boxes and want to know how they happened.
But she was literally part of it in that case. Here, to use an example, how exactly do you say deploy UBW if you killed Shirou and inherited his RM? Do you have to somehow personalize it first or anything to use it (assumimg you know how to deploy it)?Originally Posted by You
Last edited by warellis; May 19th, 2019 at 07:23 PM.
like they do it in hanafuda i guess.
Norikata's RM wasn't used here. They just used his time acceleration stuff.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
For all we know, the process might require hooking up the brain jar and circuits of the defeated owner like extra RAM.
Wait, I need to re - read Kagetsu Tohya again.
I missed that bit.
All I know that she is a DA after she died, but to have Nrvnqsr's power?
Yikes...
Not dealing with it...
Why even try?
This is golden...
Is anyone else confused about the timeline and with this and strange fake like gray make sense that she has a mask on but there's a bunch of other weird stuff going on like Waver still wants to summon rider in the holy Grail war I'm just saying it feels like the development doesn't matter here and they still say he's El - Melloi II so what did he marry into the family now because they still say Reines the sister and strange fake
Please reword your comment so it can be understood. If you can't see what's wrong with it, at least put your points/questions in a bullet list. I only get that you talk about timelines but then you mix it up with Strange Fake for some bizarre reason and do a run-on sentence without a clear division between subjects.
To try to adress what I think I understand: the timelines are pretty simple. Case Files takes place largely in 2003-2004, months and then weeks and then days before the Fifth Holy Grail War (a "mystery route", as in it is unknown which route of the VN it will be) starts. Waver hopes to clear the debt the El-Melloi family has accrued by the time the war starts, so he can be free of his responsibilities and go to Fuyuki to summon Iskandar again. As we know, he won't succeed.
Strange Fake takes place in an alternate world completely, some unspecified number of years after the Fifth Holy Grail War (again a mystery route) went down (my own guess is 2008). Waver thinks of giving Iskandar's catalyst to Flat to participate in the Snowfield ritual because he can't go there himself as a Lord.
Waver's motivations are pretty clear: if there is a chance for him to see Iskandar again, he wants to take it, no matter the timeline, because it seems to be an universal constant that he will always summon Iskandar in a Grail War and face his teacher Kayneth there, it will always change him, and he will always become Lord El-Melloi II after Kayneth's death.
As for Reines' situation in FSF, unclear. Presumably, she is ~20 like Gray and Flat, but the only mention of her succession is this:
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I'm pretty sure the whole idea is that Case Files is something that happened regardless the route FSN takes, as it's irrelevant to it.
Strange Fake is a completely different world that in some miraculous coincidence, has everything happening before it being exactly the same as the stay night world.
Doesn't Strange Fake, in what little we hear about Fuyuki, somehow seem to be a alternate to any of the three routes? It seems we hear about Shirou being able to make an infinite number of copies ala UBW but then we hear about Berserker's blackening ala HF. And then we hear Rin is at the Clock Tower alone(?) which sounds more like Fate or HF?
Strange Fake is going to make references to all of them without confirming one. Like Narita already said it's a mystery route.
strange fake is school life route
school life is a modified hf
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Yeah, Eiichirou called it a HF 1.5 right?
Still, Narita said that before Himuten went that direction.
Looking at the dates for the tankobons, it would seem Strange Fake was released co-currently with the HGW 5 arc of Himuten.
Seeing as they seemed to be in contact and for one of the interview (pre-release or after vol 2) for FSF Narita kept telling readers to read School Life, I don't see how Narita wouldn't know Mashin was going in that direction.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Well, then definitely Narita was just playing coy.
What I'm trying to get at is, it's good that Shinji's alive in the Strange Fake world.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I wonder if the Material will give us the Magic Circuit Quality, Quantity and Composition stats for everyone.
So what is revealed/happens in School Life? Since it's a modified HF route.
Ciel comes to town and helps Ayaka handle damage control so things aren't that bad.
Ayako still gets her blood sucked by Rider, she doesn't die because of a brooch Rin gave her for christmas. Gets hooked on otome games in hospital.
Track Team Trio comes up with the hypothesis that all this is happening because of a leaking chemical weapon dropped by the US Army in the second world war. Himuro writes a report and gives it her dad who dismisses it.There were a lot of black boxes in the fifth Holy Grail War. He did not know what fate that Heroic Spirit had met. He had, however, received information that there had actually been mass fainting incidents at the time, and that the Holy Church had covered them up as gas leaks. Apparently rumors that gas had leaked from an unexploded chemical weapon dropped by the American military had spread among the local high school students, and Faldeus' colleagues had conducted a follow-up operation to suppress counterfactual rumors... Or so he remembered hearing.
There's a giant explosion day 12? 13? that wasn't in HF.
Zouken dies. Shinji lives.
Himuro finds out her second betrothed is Makidera.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Untranslated gag manga lore continues to be something else entirely.
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