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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    It is a good scene.
    Yep, and also in HA we get to see the real Shinji

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    Well the VN mentions some that already have wind- and ice spells in them andcan only be uused for those specific spells

    And also others that are basically prana-batteries. They seem to mostly use the former in actual battles thoug You probably get a serious speed-advantage compared to casting them yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    It is a good scene.

    (wait do you mean Strife was implying Luvia has more characterization than Shinji, whaaaaaaat)
    isnt it sad, shinji
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    It is a good scene.

    (wait do you mean Strife was implying Luvia has more characterization than Shinji, whaaaaaaat)
    N-No...

    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    waver featuring the HA reject squad

    seems good
    bullying

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    A bit late, but found it:
    Crystals that have slumbered beneath the earth for eons, in particular, are prone to having nature spirits form within them, and jewels with that property can be used as simple sorcery crests. For example, a jewel with a nature spirit of fire dwelling within it would become highly flammable just by passing magical energy through it... or something along those lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    he gets like one real scene, its not exactly a shinji revolution
    He has three real good scenes in HA yo, not just one.
    Plus Hanafuda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break View Post
    He has three real good scenes in HA yo, not just one.
    Plus Hanafuda.
    And now Capsule Servant too. Which is real as hell don't try to tell me otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Pretty sure any magus can pass prana through a fire elemental gem to use some firey spell/attack/effect. It was mentioned before.
    Not pass but store. Storing magical energy in a jewel makes it a grenade according to the jewel's element because nature spirits live inside jewels etc. However people with the Eldefelt/Tohsaka style conversion trait can take magical energy that they already put into the jewel and use it for other spells, like shields or bounded fieds etc.

    Then prisma has spell jewels.



    Quote Originally Posted by bl doc
    "And the most compatible storage space is a jewel.
    You know that jewels are 'places' that easily store thoughts, a prison that stops flow, right?
    Additionally, crystals that have been in the ground for a long time carry strong natural spirits. Such jewels can become a simple 'Magic Crest' when magical energy is poured into them.
    Well, since it's a jewel, it'll break once the stored magical energy is released."
    (Fate, Day 5, Tohsaka Rin (IV))

    /Are jewels the only thing that can store prana? /
    Other things can as well. However, Jewels have the advantage of granting the infused mana certain elements and making them instant grenades.
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    -Well, usually it's not even an option to use the jewel in that way. The Tohsakas' "conversion" trait makes that possible though.
    [Referring to the partial drawing of prana from jewels, rather than just grenading things with them]
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    - Using Gems as boosters sacrifices their power and reduce them to pure "mana potions" you see in RPG games.

    The whole Gem Sorcery deal is essentially "hoarding mana for later use", a reflection of the Tohsaka attribute.

    It's Rin who is a powerful magus who can capitalize on a huge mana pool, not Gem Sorcery is awesome or powerful.
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    - しかし宝石は基本的にマ ジックブースターなので、術者が使える魔術ならば、効果は落ちるが色を変えることもできる。
    In skilled hands, gems can be used as boosters, changing their alignment at the cost of reduced effect. (Forum Source)

    - 宝石にはそれぞれ属性があるので、魔力を込めた瞬間にその魔力は宝石の属性になる。しかし宝石 は基本的にマ ジックブースターなので、術者が使える魔術ならば、効果は落ちるが色を変えることもできる。
     
    It depends on how you use the gem.

    If you use the normal one-step (一工程) Gem Sorcery spell, it is unleashed as a magic grenade.

    If you use the gems as mana-pool, then the element does not matter.

    The "Conclusion Sword" thing is probably Rin's own spell augmented by the Gem mana, because it is apparently longer than one-step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    Real question is Luvia ever explicitly stated to also have Average One?
    No but it doesn't matter because she uses jewels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break View Post
    He has three real good scenes in HA yo, not just one.
    Plus Hanafuda.
    i never bothered with hanafuda

    isnt it just a weird card game
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgeburner90 View Post
    I didn't get that impression from the recent spam of gems in the anime.
    They seemed more custom-built thingies. "The one for a shield" "the one for a Boundary Field" and "those that make shit explode".
    That's either them taking spell jewels from prisma. Or she's just using jewel prana to make them.
    However since jewels can be used to establish switches, meh. sounds alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    i never bothered with hanafuda

    isnt it just a weird card game
    I also never bothered with hanafuda.
    Cos I could never make it past shirou and saber.

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    Hanafuda is the ultimate canon, what's wrong with you people.

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    is there like a story to it or something
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Oh this will be interesting. A serious fate work that does not revolve around the holy grail war has my immediate interest

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    Don't @ me if your fanfic doesn't even have Shirou/Illya shipping k thnx ItsaRandomUsername's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    how does kotomine fit in this
    he ded

    liek so ded

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    I kind of want to see how magus mercenary is done differently from what we know of the freelancers. It's clearly some sort of pride thing, longing for the thrill of battle idea, so something of a foxhunt/stupid thrillseeking rich person mentality. There's some potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    Hanafuda is the ultimate canon, what's wrong with you people.
    These words are gospel. There are serious lore revelations in Team Trouble Chocolate's story, Muscle Girl Squad is a thing of wonder, Caster can bind Kojiro to other objects, and that's to say nothing of Wakame Paradise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    so something of a foxhunt/stupid thrillseeking rich person mentality.
    No Luvia is kind and peaceful to the common folk, Noblesse Oblige and all that ;w;

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    Don't @ me if your fanfic doesn't even have Shirou/Illya shipping k thnx ItsaRandomUsername's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvia Edelfelt View Post
    No Luvia is kind and peaceful to the common folk, Noblesse Oblige and all that ;w;
    Unless they're named Tohsaka Rin.
    McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    These words are gospel. There are serious lore revelations in Team Trouble Chocolate's story, Muscle Girl Squad is a thing of wonder, Caster can bind Kojiro to other objects, and that's to say nothing of Wakame Paradise.
    how the hell is all this in a card game

    what is this yugioh
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    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    Unless they're named Tohsaka Rin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvia Edelfelt View Post
    And now I wonder, why are there so many chairs when Rin lives alone?

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