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Thread: 2Deep4Me or "How I learned to stop thinking and enjoy the headcanon"

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    Like, all words are made up, man
    Think about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    different thread but I thought my reply belonged here more.

    I think the entire pursuit of magic, being the attempt to recreate and maintain mysteries of the past (the previous Age), is doomed to oblivion because the current World has been pushing in the other direction for 2000 years. The Extra setting and all its hints to Notes/Overworld 1999 event is evidence for this, though it's not a 1:1 example because there were extrinsic events that accelerated it.

    Science is fated to defeat cause the death of magic in the current age because of how fundamentally differently they work. Magic in the current age remains powerful only if it is kept secret and tightly controlled, but our current methods of research and knowledge production only have strong predictive power if they are widely replicated with large data pools.

    In the Age of Gods, who knows if that's how it worked. We have indications that AoG magi were completely different from modern magi, philosophically. I have a feeling that magicky things were just their technology in the past, magi were the scholars and engineers of their time, and maybe they didn't really need to worry about things being lost or preserved.

    And in FGO Roman (or Da Vinci, I forget) did mention that the distinction between mage and scientist wasn't really meaningful in the past.
    I'd love to know more about Chaldea because of this, since scientists and magus worked together there and so far most of what they achieved (not counting the demi-servant experiment) are quite impressive. I wonder if the advancement of science is related to the original sin Solomon thought humanity can't deal with.

    In SMT DS1, God saw humans building the tower of babel, so he made them no longer able to speak the unified language. Then thousands of years later the internet reduced the gap between cultures and information is available for everyone, act as some sort of new unified language, and humans managed to summon demons with the power of the internet...so God sent another ordeal to stop it, then blame humanity for being advanced again (lol). I won't be surprised if the being surpass Solomon is the SMT God trying to mess with humanity cuz Chaldea is a sin.

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    random speculation when I'm not home to play Extella

    [03:18, 11/21/2016] me: I just realized this, someone probably has thought of it already but
    [03:18, 11/21/2016] me: you know how Aoko blasts beams out of her hands and feet
    [03:18, 11/21/2016] me: and how she specializes at 破壊
    [03:18, 11/21/2016] me: I wonder if that is related at all
    [03:19, 11/21/2016] me: maybe the beams don't matter, but Destruction?
    [03:19, 11/21/2016] me: she's known in the magical world for specializing at it, and before Mahoyo came out CM3 said people speculate her 魔法 to be 破壊
    [03:45, 11/21/2016] CanonRap: its probably not related but good guess

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    I think she punches beams into things because her shooting aim is bad.

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    ya

    this is mostly baseless, just a thought

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    Spoiler:
    was reading the alice vs touko scene last night
    realized it talked about touko and mass production and that got me thinking how it's a foil for aoko's whole consumption thing
    at the same time, for mass production to exist there needs to be a consumption economy and vice-versa
    furthermore, if touko embodies mass production maybe that's the reason why she didn't get Blue.

    inno very half formed shower theory crafting. But i feel like this is somehow important to the overall theme of mahoyo and the fifth magic somehow. As well as aoko and touko's character dynamic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
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    was reading the alice vs touko scene last night
    realized it talked about touko and mass production and that got me thinking how it's a foil for aoko's whole consumption thing
    at the same time, for mass production to exist there needs to be a consumption economy and vice-versa
    furthermore, if touko embodies mass production maybe that's the reason why she didn't get Blue.

    inno very half formed shower theory crafting. But i feel like this is somehow important to the overall theme of mahoyo and the fifth magic somehow. As well as aoko and touko's character dynamic.
    Makes sense to me, given Nasu's usual approach to characters and the themes they embody.
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    one makes her cry and in one, she stops crying eventually

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    'Mass' production is a kind of weird identity for a prototypical artisan
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    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    character development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    'Mass' production is a kind of weird identity for a prototypical artisan
    Spoiler:

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    inno very half formed shower theory crafting. But i feel like this is somehow important to the overall theme of mahoyo and the fifth magic somehow. As well as aoko and touko's character dynamic.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    inno very half formed shower theory crafting. But i feel like this is somehow important to the overall theme of mahoyo and the fifth magic somehow. As well as aoko and touko's character dynamic.
    Maybe we'll know in 20 years

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    Sick burn.
    * Dullahan 12/13/16 9:30pm
    there is an important difference between bullying and mindbreak
    * ~Keo 12/13/16 9:30pm
    one makes her cry and in one, she stops crying eventually

    McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.
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    oh yea I came across this while working on thesis last week

    http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/at/axial/aa01.html

    Could definitely tack on some Nasustuff to 枢軸時代

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    「星の開拓者」が増殖した時代 とか

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    Little kids want to be Shirou, misanthropic teens want to be Shiki, grown men want to be Soujuurou, and old men want to be Nrvnqsr.

    Nobody really envies Mikiya's position though.

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    Frosty, you aren't old, and nobody wants to be Souj.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    Frosty, you aren't old, and nobody wants to be Souj.
    Don't mindread or you'll tell lies.

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    As for Soujuurou, think about it.

    Stable string of part-time jobs, good self-reliance, strong body, decent prospects for marriage.

    Basically all you need is to add education and then you could go places.

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    At any rate there's a bit of explanation due for Nrvnqsr.

    He can travel, he has pets that adore him, and he chases around young girls for recreation.

    Basically living the fuckin' dream.

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    Well, Shirou's a nigh-suicidal altruist and Shiki (both of them) has to deal with suppressed murderous urges.

    I think being a super-strong weirdo from the mountains sounds pretty good compared to those fuck-ups.
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    Shirou is actually an unrealized mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Shirou is actually an unrealized mother.
    "unrealized"

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